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I disagree with Prisco that their primary need is QB, even if they decide that Beck isn't the long term answer (which also begs the question what the hell were they doing using a second rounder on him last year?). It's quite clear that Miami isn't going to be competitive at all this year and a good offensive line is the basis for any great team (Patriots, Chargers, Colts etc, or alternatively look at the decline of KC) so why not draft the sure-fire Pro Bowl prospect, Jake Long?
I don't even think Matt Ryan is the best QB prospect in this draft (Brohm put up better numbers and carried his team for three years - tell me if you had really heard of Ryan before last year). Even if you think he is, why sacrifice him to the NFL without an offensive line? John Beck could be a good QB but you wouldn't know it because he spent so much time looking for open receivers (there were none) and then on his back - why would Ryan be any different (he's no Vince Young)?
A far superior option is to build the team up over the next two years, putting a strong O-line and D-line in place, together with at least one decent receiver, so that a QB can slot right in and be one of the later pieces of the puzzle
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I agree with you. Parcells seems to like vetran QB's anyways. He is also pretty big on trading high draft picks. I could see him trade the high first for more later low first round high second picks, where he can pick up the hard working O line guys he uses and tweener D line guys for the 3-4. Then he will plug in some underrated guys that have played for him on other teams. That is the way he has built the last couple of teams he has coached.
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I agree with you 100%. I've been getting a lot of flack from being supportive of the suggestion that they should take Jake Long while he is available. When the best qb in the draft is what he is, (whoever he is) is he really special? I think not for this year's draft. However, I feel that Jake Long IS that special guy you can't pass up. That's my gut feeling anyway. Just ask Marino how important Richmond Webb was to his success. This guy is a beast and we can build around him. Somewhat lost in all the debate is how attractive playing behind a solid line is for the free agent qbs to be should they decide to develop Beck (who I still feel has a lot of value to the team if they can commit to him. I know... to be determined.) I'm still smarting over the Ginn instead of Brady Quinn drafting fiasco. Who knows, maybe they can lob offers to Cleveland and we can get him cheaper than by drafting him since they're all on the Derek Anderson bandwagon.
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Championship teams start with D-line and O-line then go from there. If either one of your lines suck, you could have John Elway as QB, but you'll still likely lose a boatload of games.
If the Dolphins were smart, They'd get Jake long and plug at least that spot on O-line for 10 years and go for a QB in the 3rd round or so - its actually a pretty deep draft for QB, and there should be plenty available. I do think Beck needs some more competition. Hopefully it drives him to be better
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This most definitely not a deep draft for QBs - it might have lots of big names such as Colt Brennan or Chad Henne late in the draft, but there is a reason teams don't think highly of these players, namely that they have significant flaws. Henne couldn't get his place back as a starter after the kid who just transferred to Arkansas took over, and Brennan threw far too many interceptions and is the definition of a system QB. There are guys like Josh Johnson from San Diego in every draft but are they worth a 6th round punt?
I don't think Miami should draft a QB at all this year. Let Beck be the starter for a while, the rest of the team will need to improve before any draft pick will help them at QB. And God knows Miami will be picking in the top 10 for at least another year (they are guaranteed at least 4 losses from the Bills and Pats alone) so why not wait until there are some real quality prospects available rather than burning a #1 pick on someone who won't be worth it without the rest of the team?
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I've said this before and I'll say it again. If Bill Parcells does not take Matt Ryan, then the red flag should go up on Ryan. Don't forget, it was Parcells who drafted Bledsoe over Mirer, badly wanted Peyton to come out early so the Jets could draft him, and has an excellent track record with his Jets and Cowboys picks. Does anyone really think that Beck has more potential than Ryan at this point?
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Miami already has a veteran QB in Josh McCown who at this stage is a better QB than Beck. Miami should draft Darren McFadden and draft an offensive lineman like a Gosder Cherilus or Sam Baker in the second round.
McFadden has been compared to Adrian Peterson and some are saying he is even better.
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Josh McCown? This even proves my above point about Ryan. Buyer beware (Falcons?) if Tuna passes.
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Wow you actually believe that Matt Ryan has the #1 draftability like a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? You must be smoking crack.
Yes he is accurate but there are other Qbs in the draft who are more accurate and can throw the ball further. Ex. Joe Flacco...in a recent tryout Flacco threw the ball as long or close to Tom Brady...almost 80 yds...and he is just as accurate. Matt Ryan can only throw the ball a little bit over 60 yards.
Do some research before you assume.
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Yo dude, please point out to me where I assumed that Ryan SHOULD BE #1. My whole point is that Parcell | |
