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Carlton's 1972 Still The Standard


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Carlton's 1972 Still The Standard
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April 9, 2008 6:37 pm
Gibson and Carlton were without question the best pitchers of their era. Taking nothing away from Gibson's 1968 season,  Steve Carlton's 1972 season is still the standard, and remains the single greatest season ever by an athlete in any sport. Try these numbers.....27 Wins, 30 complete games, 8 shutouts, 346 Innings Pitched, 1.97 ERA, 0.993 WHIP, 310 strikeouts, 1 hit batter. The league average ERA in 1972 was 3.59.

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April 9, 2008 6:40 pm
Gibson had the luxury of pitching for the St. Louis Cardinals in 1968, who went on to win the NL Pennant. Carlton's 1972 Phillies were woeful, and won only 59 games the entire season, and finished sixth in their division. Carlton accounted for nearly 50% (27)  of their wins himself.

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April 9, 2008 7:40 pm
Walter Johnson, 1914.

36-7, 29 complete games, 11 shutouts. 1.14 ERA, 0.78 WHIP. You're either a homer, or ignorant. Maybe both.

I think the reason nobody has replied to you yet is cause the statement is laughable. Look up Wayne Gretzky. 205 points in 74 games. Look it up

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April 9, 2008 8:48 pm
 These two pitchers WERE great. There are great pitchers today. The difference is that todays pitchers are are not men but pampered babies.

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April 9, 2008 8:48 pm
Absolutely right, Maux. I'm a Sox fan but what Carlton did would be amazing just looking at the cold stats alone. But what puts it a cut above is the Phillies were 59-97 that year! He won nearly half of the teams entire total for the year. To have those numbers on a good team would be incredible. But to do that on a last place is amazing.

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April 10, 2008 3:08 pm
My vote goes to Pedro Martinez in 2000. He put up the following numbers in the midst of the steroid era, shorter fences, and more offensive output than in any other period in baseball.

18-6, 217 IP, 284/32 K/BB, 1.74 ERA, 0.737 WHIP.

Pedro's ERA placed him first in MLB, with the next 10 best ERA's coming from the National League. The next best ERA in the American League was Roger Clemens' mark of 3.70. Even the next best ERA, Kevin Brown's 2.58 was no where near Martinez's.

All due respect to Gibson's 1968 season, but there were five starters with sub-2.00 ERA's that year.

Same holds true for Carlton's 1972 season. Tremendous numbers, but his contemporaries were doing the same thing. That year, Louis Tiant's ERA was better than Carlton's. I think ultimately the best season honor belongs to Martinez.

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May 18, 2008 3:13 pm

Steve Carlton 27 W 1.97 ERA 41 GS 30 CG 8 SHO 0 SV 346.1 IP 310 SO

Gaylord Perry 24 W 1.92 ERA 40 GS 29 CG 5 SHO 1 SV 342.2 IP 234 SO

Same year. Carlton’s stats are better but it’s real close.


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May 18, 2008 3:32 pm
Steve Carlton's 1972 season is still the standard, and remains the single greatest season ever by an athlete in any sport.

1989

Football

173 Att 950 yds 5.5 Y/A 9 Rec 69 yds

Baseball

515 AB 86 R 32 HR 105 RBI 26 SB .256 BA All-Star MVP

I’d say that was a hell of a 1989 season by Bo Jackson

 


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May 18, 2008 3:40 pm

But if you just want to go by modern day pitchers, I’d suggest you take a look at Doc Gooden’s stats for 1985 (As compared to his fellow pitchers)


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May 29, 2008 11:00 am
What about Koufax? of wait you're the guy who thinks Kobe Bryant is way better than Michael Jordan never mind.