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SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:79
Level:Pro
Since:Nov 30, 2006

April 29, 2008 1:35 pm

It's about time to give Travis Hafner a day or two off.. He's just not there. He lets that first pitch "meatball" strike go by, then struggles to make contact...

SIT DOWN PRONK !!, you're killing the offense !!

What say you?


SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 19, 2008

April 29, 2008 1:54 pm

Man I hate to say it but I think you are right. He's almost an automatic K anymore. I know he's been working on his swing but somethings got to give.

 Garko has really been pissing me off too lately. Time to shake up the lineup. Why the hell are we calling players up for if they can't get any at-bats?


SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 25, 2007

April 29, 2008 2:01 pm
It's hard to believe this is the same Travis Hafner as two years ago.  Not just his average and power depletion, but the fact he is constantly down 1-2 or 0-2 in every at-bat.  This guy used to draw walks and keep rallies going. 

SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 23, 2007

April 29, 2008 4:31 pm

I agree. Give him a couple days off and then drop him in the order. You certainly can't continue to have him bat 3rd. Although, it's not like Wedge has many options. Victor is the only one hitting. All the other regulars are at .260 or lower.

I was really expecting Hafner to bounce back with a great year. He just doesn't look comfortable at the plate. It's too bad b/c he's one of my favorite players. Seems like a good guy with no ego. Pro sports needs more guys like him.


SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 23, 2008

April 29, 2008 7:58 pm
Not sure if Hafner can't find another supplier or doesn't want to pay the extra coin to get the undectable drugs, but goodness does he need the juice back!

SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 8, 2006

April 29, 2008 9:11 pm

It has been very very painful watching Travis bat this year! No need to call him Pronk anymore, that nickname doesnt suit him . He is far from project and although he may be packin heat downbelow his bat sure the hell isnt.  Give him sometime off or he has to drop down in the order. The question is who the hell goes to the 3 hole? Its not like Garko is ripping the cover off the ball. When is the last time he hit the ball out of the infield? Can it hurt to mix it up alittle?  


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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Sep 20, 2007

April 30, 2008 7:06 am

The season is still young, but the poor hitting is so pervasive it calls into question the batting coach, Derek Shelton.  I don't know much about him, except he started out good 2 or 3 years ago.  There was a terrible team slump last summer.  Now, they're starting off very poorly.

Giving guys a day or two off, and changing the batting order are both standard remedies for poor hitting.  But how many guys do you 'sit down'?  And the replacements are guys like Andy Marte, batting below .100?  Did Garko put on about 30 pounds this winter?

Also standard is an early May review of the team.  This should include the batting instructor or whatever they call him.  I don't know if he is the problem, but it certainly needs to be checked.


SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 28, 2006

April 30, 2008 7:53 am
Thank you, I have said it before and I will say it again Derek Shelton must go.  I agree with others that it is not his fault all together that this team is not hitting. Eric Wedge & Mark Shapiro have just as much to blame.  For a team that we so close to getting to the World Series not to make any major moves in the off season in stupid.  We knew we needed hitting and we did nothing.  Again Derek Shelton is not the only one to get blamed, but he he done nothing since last year to fix it also and that is his job.  When one or two players can't hit, ok not a big problem. When 6 or 7 guy can't hit then someone must go. 

SIT DOWN PRONK
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 14, 2006

April 30, 2008 1:25 pm

GeronimosSon...it doesn't happen often...As a matter of fact, if I had to bet on the following three: Whether I would die in an earthquake in Illinois, be struck by lightening, or someday,  that I might actually agree with you, I probably would have choosen the earthquake....However I am willing to put all things aside. Today is a new day and believe it or not, I completely agree with you for a change! What say you? LOL! ! ! Hafner needs something...Don't know what...but whatever he is doing is sure as hell not working!

For the rest of you...I haven't heard one of you say that Eric Wedge needs to go? I guess I have to ask you why? Isn't it Eric's job to take over if  his hitting coach isn't getting the job done? I mean, who makes the lineup? Who request that certain ball players get called up? Shapiro might help in the decision, but in the end, Eric is suppose to know what he needs up here to remain competitve and who are who is not playing up to par, right? In the end, isn't it Eric's fault for wins and losses?

When Shapiro and Wedge started molding this team for the future (probably starting around 2002 or so), this team has completely lacked consistency . Be honest, every year the Tribe has had a problem in one specific area. The hitting and the pitching (whether its starting or relief) never seem to click at the same time. One year it was the bullpen. Then the Indians started off the season not hitting at all. They fired the hitting coach, began to hit, and then the starting pitching wasn't there (aka remember Jason Johnson). Then the starting pitching started coming together and the relief pitching (AKA no more Wickman, hello Fausto Carmona as your closer). Then your starting rotation and bullpen probably become ranked as the top two in the game and guess what....we can't hit again. Lets be honest, it has been inconsistency that has cost this team one playoff year (2005), one World Series opportunity (2007) and it is going to cost this team another playoff year if something isn't done quickly in (2008).

Part of me continues to think that it is the pocketbook of Mr. Dolan that keeps us from winning it all because he won't shell out the money for a caliber player better than a Dellucci, Blake, Michaels, etc.. He has Shapiro sign this young talent at a cheap price (which is smart but risky) for years in hopes to remain competitive. He knows that enough fans will come and watch this team, hence making him profit. However he won't go the extra distance to win the whole thing. I understand that spending more money doesn't equal a championship, but I also know that putting the guys that are out there doesn't either. Regardless, the fall guy here is Wedge. He is expected to win with the talent he has been provided with and he hasn't. Fire him and lets see if someone else can do better.

 


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Reputation:75
Level:Pro
Since:Nov 21, 2006