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Since:Oct 10, 2006
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First off, Ryan Grant was running against nickel and dime defenses all year. I would be shocked if he duplicated his numbers next year. And how can you say that Greg Jennings is better than Bernard Berrian? Here is there production over the last two seasons:
Bernard Berrian: 122 rec. 1726 yds. 11 TDs
Greg Jennings: 98 rec. 1552 yds. 15 TDs
You seem to be forgetting one little thing. Brett Favre retired!!! He made all of your receivers look better. Our WR have had similar production with Tarvaris Jackson and Rex Grossman throwing them the ball. Your WR aren't as good as you think they are.
I'll say it again, Brett Favre retired. The Packers success came with Favre and now it has left with Favre.
The Vikings have the better team.
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 29, 2007
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Peterson had 5 more starts than Grant. If Ryan Grant started every game he would have had similar or maybe better stats that Peterson and the stats prove it. I WOULD'T CALL GRANT OVERRTED.You're forgetting that AD split time with Chester Taylor. Taylor had 844 yards and 7 TD last year. Don't try and compare Grant with Adrian Peterson.
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Reputation:99
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Since:Aug 26, 2006
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Peterson had 5 more starts than Grant. If Ryan Grant started every game he would have had similar or maybe better stats that Peterson and the stats prove it. I WOULD'T CALL GRANT OVERRTED.If you want to come on the Vikings board and throw around numbers you might want to do your home work first. Adrian Peterson only started 9 games last year, the same number as Ryan Grant.
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Reputation:84
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 25, 2008
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i DO live in wisconsin...and Al Harris is very overrated...he gets exploited by good receivers like moss, owens, burress, (berrian) etc. (idk how he made the pro-bowl over woodson)
... Grant could have had more games to play in if he was higher on the depth chart (which i think goes by how good the player is idk)...grant is good at running through gaping holes, look at the film (aka fast in a straight line)..overrated
...also I think it's more like Tarvaris "wins games" Jackson...rogers isn't even proven
...jared allen is a great DE idk y u think kampman is better since ur a stats person...
...and finally, we'll see how stellar ALL of your WR's do w/o favre (lol at u putting Ruvell Martin's name in your list) .... I'm liking rice and berrian, and driver and jennings
srry about my cool punctuation and such
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 26, 2006
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Now whoever said that they would take Bernard Berrian and Sydney Rice... Your a crack head. Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Ruvell Martin. BLOW YOU GUYS RIGHT OUT.
You Packers really want Nelson , Jones, Martin; you can have them.
Jones 47 - 676 - 4
Martin 16 - 242 - 2
Nelson 0 - 0 - 0 &nb sp; TOTALS= 63 - 918 - 6
The Vikings will go with: Bobby Wade, Sidney Rice, Andre Allison
Wade 54 - 647 - 3
Rice 31 - 400 - 4
Allison 8 - 122 - 0 TOTALS= 93 - 1169 - 7
We've already seen the Jennings / Berrian numbers; about a wash!
The only wild card is Donald Driver. If the NFL follows through with the proposed new rule: no canes and seeing eye dogs allowed on the field; Driver would be forced into retirement. Seriously, I like Driver; and he is the only clear upgrade over the Vikings WR group, but he is getting old!
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:May 8, 2007
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JMigs, Ryan Grant is over rated because i see him all the time in the top 5 running backs in the league according to most packer fans, as stated before, people werent worrying about grant, they were worrying about favre, he was running agains 4 or 5 in the box, who was AD running against? 8 in the box
You Vikings fans have turned into a bunch of clowns. I can't wait week 1.
All i do is try to come on here and make friends with a division rival that arent bad and all of you guys are just arragant. Good luck with Mr. Tavaris "can't throw" Jackson.
i have not been trying to be arrogant, forgive me if i have, but you cant expect people to love you if you come over and bash vikings fans, then say you have the more talented team, and criticize what we say and do
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 24, 2008
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QB- Im sick of all you T-jack haters yes hes hasnt played the best games but he is young he just needs to work on his decision making and well i just dont know about Rodgers does he even know how to play football so clearly vikes ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; RB-Vikes ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; & nbsp; ; &nb sp; FB- Even
WR- Packers have good receivers with Favre but the thing is can Rodgers get the ball to them? &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; TE- Packers
O-Line- Not a Chance
D-Line-Vikings only because of the DT's and the WILLIAMS WALL
LB- I will give it to the packers
S- Packers have decent safetys but cmon you cant top sharper
CB- Packers yea i will give u the cbs
K-Longwell &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; P- NO WAY KLUWE
Vikes for the superbowl!!
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 10, 2007
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Mr Miggs , you are SUCH a liar . I've seen you on threads on the Packers board where there is plenty of Vikings bashing going on . . . Don't lie boy ! How can you possibly come on here and talk crap , then say " you guys don't want to play nice with me ! Wah ! " What did you expect ? I generally don't go on other boards and talk crap ( well , occasionally ) and NEVER talk about injuring sanother teams players -- even in jest .
Bottom line ; The packers and Vikings both have very good teams , and clearly the division will come down to the better of the two . . . I happen to think that's the Vikings at this point ( Jared Allen shifted the ballance IMO ) , But who knows for sure ? That's why they play the games , ya know ?
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 31, 2007
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Who ever compared Jennings to Berrian is dumb. Jennings Rookie year he was injured the 2nd half of the season. Last season he missed 3 games. If he played every game he would have went well over 1,000 yards. that argument was completely dumb.
Read my posts i never said that Ryan Grant is better than Adrian Peterson because clearly hes not. I was just throwing out some facts because you guys said hes overrated.
Yes i already knew that Peterson split time with Chester Taylor but almost every game Adrian Peterson had atleast 15 carrys a game... thats why i brought it up.
YIKESVIKES
I never said I wanted peterson to get injured. I said he will have about 50yrds and than Harris will injure him again but then i put lol just playing. Don't worry im not as arragant as you guys.
BTW for the person who said Donald Driver "is one ugly mofo" thats kind of weird man. Quit judging guys. I think the purples getting to ya.
It's funny how getting good guys on your team can turn the fans around. Just last season i was on these boards saying goodluck and just talking good about you guys and you guys actually responded with respect. Now god forbid i try and talk to you guys it's like walking through hell...
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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Oct 10, 2006
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Your very first post you showed us no respect, calling us arrogant, telling us your team is clearly better, your avatar, telling us all the things the Packers did to the Vikings in the past few years and then you have the nerve to tell us we need to show you more respect!?!?! you got to be kidding me?!?!?
I think your argument is ridiculously stupid. Saying that Jennings was hurt so that's why he's better? Shouldn't the fact that he can't stay healthy factor in to the part that he's not better than Berrian?
I dislike Internet Packers fans. It's hard enough to tolerate my own packers friends, why would I want to be friends with anymore?
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 26, 2006
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Who ever compared Jennings to Berrian is dumb. Jennings Rookie year he was injured the 2nd half of the season. Last season he missed 3 games. If he played every game he would have went well over 1,000 yards. that argument was completely dumb.
If he played every game. Well Greg Jennings does have to play to get his numbers, that seems to be an issue. Bernard Berrian has not been injured. So that may be a big IF for Jennings!
Yes i already knew that Peterson split time with Chester Taylor but almost every game Adrian Peterson had atleast 15 carrys a game... thats why i brought it up.
Once again, you might want to do your home work before you come here and throw around numbers. Adrian Peterson played in 14 games, he had 7 games with 15 or more carries and 7 games with 15 or less carries. That's not at least 15 almost every game, not even close.
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Reputation:59
Level:Pro
Since:May 1, 2008
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think your argument is ridiculously stupid. Saying that Jennings was hurt so that's why he's better? Shouldn't the fact that he can't stay healthy factor in to the part that he's not better than Berrian?
Peterson was hurt so doesn't that mean he's not better also.
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 21, 2007
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All i do is try to come on here and make friendsMaybe if you weren't so condescending in your posts, we would take you more seriously. All you're doing is trying to stir things up, not make friends.
Now god forbid i try and talk to you guys it's like walking through hell..Welcome to HELL , may I take your coat?
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