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You guys want to talk about the Bears?


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You guys want to talk about the Bears?
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Since:Sep 19, 2006

May 10, 2008 7:55 am

No love loss here for the Bears, thats no secret.  But I want to attempt to analyze old Chicago. (calm down bears fans Ill try to be objective... coming from this viewpoint)

  • I once read on the bathroom wall at a tigers game:  the best thing to come out of chicago was the fire of 1871.  ok...ok..not funny.

This is basically the same team that went to the superbowl, just a different  LT, RB and a healthy Harris and Brown.   With a top 5 defense  and always specatular special teams, these guys could easily win 10 games.  No joke.   Here is the kicker, they could  just as easily lose 10 games too.  The biggest problem: stability at the QB position!  IMO that position is just too important, and chicago just doesnt get it.  The Bears must think that theyre as good as the Ravens and they can win with a Dilfer type QB, but reality check ~ no theyre not that good. 

The skill positions on the bears offense wont scare anybody, not even our dismal defense.  Cedric Benson has disgraced chicago far too long.  They would be wise to Kevin Jones that fool.(cut their loss,start over)  Is Matt Forte the answer there?  I dont know, havent seen much of the kid.  From what Ive read on the net, Chicago would have been wiser to select Kevin Smith with the # 44 pick over Forte.  Very glad that didnt happen!   I think taking Chris Williams at 14 over mendenhall was a good move, I always like to start a team from the lines out.  Williams will make a solid anchor to the line for years. imo.  

Old players that are likely to take a step back
John Tate (not sure if he is the same player even with a move to RT)
Mike Brown (all of those injuries had to have affected his play)
Adewale Ogunleye (he's getting up there in years and is likely to lose a step)
Brian Urlacher (his nagging back injury could become a problem)
Olin Kreutz (he's on the wrong side of 30 and isn't quite the force that he once was)
Desmond Clark (getting older and will inevitably get slower)

Since the Bears went to the dance,  I think the balance of power has shifted a bit in the NFC north.  I like what the Vikings are doing, building with probably the best offensive and defensive line in the division.  I like the Lions chances on offense but I havent seen us stopping very many offense's lately!   

Opinions?


You guys want to talk about the Bears?
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May 10, 2008 11:02 am
Haha. Nother, I honestly thing, not trying to be funny, I think the Bears will be lucky to win 3 games. Their response to their dismal offense is to re-sign Rex Grossman and to allow Mushin Muhammad and Bernard Berrian to hit the road. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that either are very good, but they were clearly the Bear's top 2 recievers. Cedric Benson sucks and it should take Matt Forte a while to learn the ropes in the NFL. I guess they expect Devin Hester to lead them to the Super Bowl! Oh ya, Hester has hinted at not reporting for Training Camp if not given a new deal. Wouldn't that be something, there best offensive/special team player and Brian Urlacher, their best defensive player both holding out because of contract issues. Good luck Bear's, you'll need it!!!!!

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Since:Aug 23, 2007

May 10, 2008 3:14 pm

Bears will have a TOP10 pick next year and win less than 6 games.
The division has gotten tougher and the bears were the only team to lose to the Lions twice, I mean come on, I love the lions but let's be honest when you lose to us twice, there is something wrong with your team.

The Bears have too many aging vets as Nother pointed out. Pun intended, and not enough young talent in the places where it counts.
The Rex resigning really threw me for a chicago loop and made me question their ability to evaluate talent and desire to win. How many chances are they gonna give this kid???

Williams and Forte were good picks, I wanted the Lions to draft both of these guys but I'm happier with the picks of Cherilus and Smith.

The Bears have too many injuries year in and year out on defense. Not enough Talent offensively to score points. Devin Hester may win 1-2 games a year but where are the rest gonna come from. 1-2 by Brian Urlacher. That's a total of 4 games. OOPS!


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May 10, 2008 3:25 pm
How many chances are they gonna give this kid???Looks like even more than the Lions gave Joey!!!

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May 10, 2008 3:31 pm
Their response to their dismal offense is to re-sign Rex Grossman and to allow Mushin Muhammad and Bernard Berrian to hit the road. Then they traded Brian Griese and didn't draft anyone.  And who did they sign?  Marty Booker and Brandon Lloyd!!

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May 10, 2008 3:42 pm

I personally think the Bears were good but not great when they went to the Superbowl and have done nothing but lose talent and make bad decisions like resigning Grossman ever since.  I can see Lovie defending him now.  "We are 2 and 8 with Rex Grossman as our quarterback!!!" 

I think the defense is going to be a lttle better than last season which was shockingly bad.  They will only be better because they will get back some injured players.  Mike Brown will be hurt not long into the season of course!!!  The offense will be bottom 5 no doubt.  They just don't have any talent!!


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May 10, 2008 7:46 pm

ill tell ya what i think of DUH Bears,    @%&*      &nbs p; DUH Bears... and as for Minnesota, i will never respect any one in barney purple, no way, no how,  i honsetly have this occuring dream where Bobby Wade goes up for a catch and Daniel Bullocks just levels him ending his meaningless career


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May 10, 2008 9:17 pm
You are a loser I mean if you have no respect for somebody that play's better than you then you should not write on these boards, Minnesota is a better team than we are they beat us every time we play them. You Suck.

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May 11, 2008 8:05 am

They come off sounding really cheap.  Every training camp there is a controversy about some key player not being happy. Last off season it was Lance Briggs and Coach Smith. This season its Urlacher.    Yeah and letting the top 2 receivers walk and bringing in  the 49r reject Lloyd?  what kind of junk is that.   

I really liked Thomas Jones, he added more value to a team than his marginal talent. To a man they say he was the lockerroom leader so what  do they do - find him a spot- No get rid of him.   Think the team would resent Cedric Benson?    I wonder if these are Lovie Smith moves or is he a figure head coach?


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May 11, 2008 9:30 am
The Lions despite doing absolutely nothing if not taking  a step back during the off-season should again finish close to .500. Nothing against Chicago but their downward spiral has not hit rock bottom yet. What little offense they had in the first place took big hits during the off-season. The defense is another year older and as of yet, they still have yet to address the nose tackle position (formerly occupied by Tank Johnson) that plagued the defense all year in 07. Unless that position is addressed, the defense is vulnerable.

Take a look at what has happened to the cover two when teams do not provide a solid player at that unheralded position. They get steam-rolled. Look back at the Vikings when they lost Henry Thomas to the Lions. Take a look at what happened to the Bucs a couple of times when they lost Anthony McFarland to injury before developing depth. Look at the Colts run defense during their Super Bowl year before acquiring McFarland in a trade and working him into the lineup and lastly, look at what happened to the Bears last season. People talk about every other spot on the field with the cover two but the NT position (along with the under tackle) are the two most important positions on the field. You have to have both for the defense to work. The Bears have one, and he is a great one, but without pairing him with at least a solid NT, the defense and team is sunk. Even in the worst division in football, I can't see them avoiding a double digit loss season.

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May 11, 2008 12:04 pm
The Bears made a huge mistake by not drafting a QB or going after McNabb. They lack any real playmakers, Hester returning kicks is fine but he coughs up the football alot. They let their receivers go in Free Agency and had no back up plan. Da Bears are not looking very smart right now.

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May 11, 2008 1:12 pm
Even in the worst division in football, I can't see them avoiding a double digit loss season.

I really beg to differ. The worst team in our division didn't chose until the 14th pick in the draft. Pretty good if you ask me. There is a lot of competion in our division and every team has a chance to win. Just look, the Lion's and Vikings both beat the Bear's twice last season and lost to the Packers twice. The Bears however; go out and sweep the Packers. This shows to me that we have 4 solid teams and our division can compete on a weekly basis.

In my opinion, there are only 2 divisons better then the NFC North. The AFC South and the NFC East. (One could make the argument for the AFC North as well).