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May 10, 2008 3:17 pm
I'll have to make this quick to start out and then add more notes as a reply later tonight. I did catch the morning practice, but last second family obligations will force me to miss the afternoon practice and both sessions tomorrow. I'm quite annoyed by this.

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The big story: Brooking practiced as an outside linebacker in the morning practice. Tony Taylor practiced as the middle linebacker with Brooking and Boley on each side.

The other surprise: Brent Grimes worked across from Chris Houston in the first unit, with Coleman and Milloy at the safety spots. I love his potential and figured he'd be a candidate for the nickel spot, but I was stunned to see him with the first unit in the very first practice.

In nickel packages, Von Hutchins lined up with that group as the nickel back, lining up in man coverage opposite the slot receiver. Nicholas came in to join Brooking as the two nickel package LBs.

The offensive linemen were rotating and mixing up the combinations frequently. I doubt there even was a designated first unit. For example, Blalock and Baker spent time working as a line with Ben Wilkerson, Doug Datish, and Kurt Quarterman.

Harry Douglas looked pretty good. Eric Weems had a great catch in traffic that got raves from coaches and teammates.

There were a couple of players out there that aren't listed on the roster. One is a WR named Landry who wore #5, and another was a running back (I think he's a back - he worked with the RBs/FBs in several drills) named Hall who wore #20.

Brent Grimes also wore #20, and linebacker Travis Williams wore #52. These are not the numbers listed for those players on the Falcon web site, so if you catch the rest of minicamp be forewarned that you can't always trust the official roster listing.

Curtis Lofton played MLB with the second group of linebackers, joined by Travis Williams and Stephen Nicholas on the outsides. Prospects Isaac Brown, Earl Everett and Cameron Vaughn worked together as a third LB unit.

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I have more notes, but they'll have to wait until late tonight.

Since I'm out of action for the rest of minicamp, if you can go PLEASE take notes as best you can on who plays where and with what units and add those details to this thread. Especially take note if you see Brooking move back to the middle or see other CBs besides Grimes working with the first unit.


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May 10, 2008 4:07 pm
thanks for the update I couldn't go so it is nice to know what's going on. Im happy the Falcons are finaly moving there places where they are suited best. By the way how did Matt Ryan do on his first practice, and was Chevis Jackson there to? Thanks ahead.

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May 10, 2008 6:29 pm

Torgo,

Did you happen to catch how the rotation went at the defensive tackle spot? How did Sam Baker look out there and Thomas DeCoud? Did Jimmy Williams line up as the 3rd safety behind Erik Coleman, and Antoine Harris. Actually did he even attend the mini camp considering it's mandatory?


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May 10, 2008 6:31 pm
Did Jamaal Anderson seem to have a little more pep in his step? I know what I am asking is alot to gather from one mini camp practice but I am just curious. Exspecially about Jamaal Anderson cause this upcoming season is (HUGE) for him.

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May 10, 2008 6:47 pm
If you are a true Atlanta Falcons fan you will support this new regime and hopefully turn this franchise into a consistent winner.

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May 10, 2008 10:02 pm
Just checking in briefly while I can...

Yes, Jimmy Williams was there and did participate. He worked in a DB unit with CJ Gaddis as the other safety and with Wilrey Fontenot and Glenn Sharpe as the two corners.

Finneran, Shockley, Datish, and Pennington all participated. Weiner and Lewis obviously were out, and so was Renardo Foster. I hadn't heard how his rehab work was coming along, but apparently he still has a while to go before he'll be ready to play.

The drills had very little contact, so it's tough to say how well the linemen and linebackers really did. The full team and 7-on-7 drills were sort of like two-hand touch football. The defenders ran up to Turner, Snelling, etc, but didn't do anything more than that.

Even without full contact, two small fights did break out during the morning session.

Many of the drills with the defensive units were on the far field, so it wasn't always easy to spot who was working with who - especially the linemen because the view was frequently obstructed by other players. In general, the best view was of the QBs and receivers. I suspect the coaches set that up intentionally so that fans could always see the QBs throwing passes and ooh and aah over each catch.

A few articles are already out about how Brooking practiced at the weak side rather than MLB this morning. Coach Smith said it was part of the cross-training regimen and isn't a permanent thing. I'm not entirely sure I buy that - if Lofton and Taylor can step it up in camp, Smith would probably move Brooking to the outside in a heartbeat.

It was pretty cool to see David Baker there. For those who might not know, he's the commissioner of the Arena League, so you see him from time to time at Georgia Force games. He's a really big guy, so it was kind of hard to miss him. He was there to see his son Sam in his first practice as an Atlanta Falcon.

The fan turnout surprised me. It was the largest crowd I had ever seen at a Falcon practice. One article claims there were over 1100 people there. I didn't think the crowd was quite that large, but I'd certainly believe there were 500 or more.

I have to pop back over to the family now, but I'll post more details either later tonight or tomorrow.


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May 11, 2008 12:57 am
    The only question I have for you torgo is do you know which QB looked most likely to be cut? I hope it is Joey Harrington. I really loved him at Oregon and I thought he would have eventually done something with the Lions but I don't like him now. I was just the opposite with D.J. Shockley because I didn't like him at Georgia being an LSU fan, but when he came into the league I really wanted to see him succeed. I hope we keep Shockley just because he is a different tempo than Harrington, Chris Redman, and Matt Ryan. Just look at the Steelers with Big Ben and Charlie Batch, or the Seahawks with Matt Hasselback and Seneca Wallace. I also think Shockley deserves at least one shot, Harrington already had his.

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May 11, 2008 1:52 am

It's way too early to tell on the QBs.   With no contact today, the QBs weren't doing any scrambling or anything fancy.  It was all just pitch and catch -  and they are all pretty good at that. 

My guess is that Redman is in and the final QB slot comes down to Harrington vs Shockley, with the decision largely coming down to how well DJ shows his playmaking ability in the preseason games.  

Both are dirt cheap on the salary cap, and Mularkey's offense should suit both of them pretty well.   If all other things are roughly equal, Joey has the edge because of his experience.   But DJ can take over games when he really turns it on, and his mobility would make life a whole lot easier for the offensive line.  So if he can deliver in preseason, he wins the job.  

In March I asked him about his struggles in practice and the first preseason game last year, and what made the difference in the second game (when he suddenly cranked it up, hit every receiver on the numbers with his throws and looked unstoppable with his legs -  until the turf monster got his knee and put him on IR).  

He said he was trying to do too much to impress last year's new coaches and was overthrowing everything.   He knew he blew it in the first game, so in the second one he just settled down and played football.

If he can do that again this year, he'll make the team and possibly get a shot at a few starts somewhere along the way.   If not, it still might not be the end of the line.  He should have practice squad eligiblitiy, so the team could keep him around for the season and then re-sign him for 2009 after Harrington's deal expires.

 


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May 11, 2008 3:15 am

A few more notes from the morning practice:    (did anybody catch the afternoon session?)

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Jennings, Norwood, Chandler Williams and CJ Gaddis practiced catching and returning punts.

The team did a few drills and then gathered together on the far field for stretching exercises.  That struck me as odd.   I expected the stretching to come before anything else.

The offensive line was like musical chairs.  From one drill to the next, there was no telling who would play together.   Never mind first string, second string, etc.  It didn't look like there were designated units at all.  It was as if someone just tagged guys on the spur of the moment and sent them in. 

One early drill had Clabo and Ojinnaka back at their tackle positions from the end of last season, with McClure as the center, and Blalock at one guard spot.  But the other guard spot was filled by Kurt Quarterman rather than either of Forney or Batiste.   Quarterman was then right back out with the next group, which also included Doug Datish and Michael Butterworth.

The first two sets of wide receiver drills were basic toss and catch, with the WRs lined up to go out for passes one at a time.   The RBs were off running drills separately, and the TEs were working separately from the wideouts.   Shockley threw to the TEs while the other three QBs took turns throwing to the WRs. 

One twist that I liked was that after the WRs caught the ball, they ran with it to the end of another line and then threw it back to an assistant near the QBs.  They weren't just giving the ball back.  They were running to a designated spot and throwing 20 or 30 yard passes to the assistant.   No doubt Mike Mularkey was behind that.   We'll see some trick plays with WRs throwing the ball this year, and Inspector Gadget has them working on their passing skills from the very first practice.

At that time the defensive guys on the far field, working in groups and too far away to tell how well any specific players were doing.   The offensive linemen were at the back end of that field, receiving instruction from coaches and occasionally blocking each other. 

The next drills had the LBs and DBs coming over to the near field to cover the receivers in one on one drills.   The quarterbacks were right around the 40 yard lines, with guys going out for passes towards each of the end zones.  Harrington and Shockley were throwing to the running backs and TEs on one side, while Redman and Ryan threw to the wideouts on the other side.   Redman and Harrington switched places later on.

I wrote down as many of the matchups as I could:

Milloy covered Hartsock.  Brooking covered Mughelli.  (?) covered Finneran.   Boley covered Norwood.  Irons covered Jennings.  Chevis Jackson covered Harry Douglas and made a strong play to break up the pass.  Nick Turnbull covered TE George CooperTony Taylor covered Snelling.  Fontenot covered Chandler Williams.  Hutchins covered Horn.  Antoine Harris covered Zinger.  Decoud covered TE Jason Rader, who dropped the pass.  Earl Everett covered Thomas Brown, who also dropped the pass.  Grimes covered Weems, cutting in front and interecepting Redman's pass.  Stone covered Hartsock.  Milloy covered Zinger, who made a nice catch.  Grimes covered Roddy White, who also made a nice catch.   Chevis Jackson covered Jenkins.  Travis Williams covered Norwood, who made a great catch.  Houston covered an unknown WR (I wrote down #17 -  if anyone catches Sunday's practices, look for a name).   Hutchins covered Harry Douglas, who made a great break to get separation and then caught a deep pass over the shoulder.  In a game, that would have gone for a touchdown.   The horn sounded with Finneran up next. 

In the drills that I saw with the DTs, Kindal Moorehead was the one working with Rashad Moore.   After seeing Moore on the practice field, there is no doubt in my mind that Smith has him in mind for the nose tackle spot.  He is just plain BIG.   Montavious Stanley worked with Babineaux.   I didn't catch who Tim Anderson worked with, but I'd guess it was David Patterson.   I also didn't catch if the DEs were working in designated combinations. 

On the DB units, Houston and Grimes worked together with Coleman and Milloy.   David Irons, Chevis Jackson, Daren Stone and Antoine Harris made up a second unit, while Jimmy Williams, CJ Gaddis, Wilrey Fontenot and Glenn Sharpe made up a third unit.   Von Hutchins played nickel defender with the first group.  Nick Turnbull sometimes replaced CJ Gaddis with the third unit.  I didn't catch who else may have played nickel or what group DJ Wolfe worked with.

Coach Smith had said on a radio spot that the team would do some 7 on 7 drills (really 6 on 7 -  leaving out the linemen on both sides).   He took it a step beyond that - the practice ended with full 11 on 11 action that had some interesting groupings.

One lineup that I noticed in particular featured the "unknown" guys who weren't listed on the roster.  Matt Ryan was at quarterback, with Stepanovich as the center, Sam Baker and Ben Wilkerson (!) as the tackles, D'Anthony Batiste and Harvey Dahl (!) as the guards, Zinger at TE, Corey McIntyre at fullback, and Jennings and Landry (the unknown #5) as the wide receivers.   The play was a handoff to the halfback, Hall (the unknown #20), who slipped through the line like he was invisible.   I know nothing about him, but he's a little guy -  noticeably shorter than Adam Jennings, who was the first one over to congratulate him on his good run.   

The defense on that play had Moorehead and Moore at the DT spots, Simon Fraser and Willie Evans as the ends, Lofton, Nicholas and Travis Williams as the LBs, and Jimmy Williams, Turnbull, Fontenot and Sharpe as the DBs.

On both sides of the ball it was an interesting combination of a few projected starters in with a mix of key backups and hopeful prospects.   Many of the other plays had that kind of mixture as well.


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May 11, 2008 4:58 am

Keep up the good work Torgo.

Man I hate to say this but it will be easy to get Falcon tickets this year my friend. I just ordered a pair of single game tickets off a season ticket holder from ebay for only $100.00 and the seats are 10 rows back from the 20yd line. That's insane cause I remember a fews years back when the Falcons played the Jets on Monday Night football when number 7 was still on the team I payed triple that for the nose bleed section just to go.

At least by friend will have a ball he has never been to a pro game and he is a (HUGE) Panthers fan. Nov 23 should be a goodtime. Just hope the Falcons beat the Panthers or I'll never hear the end of it. P.S. I gotta convince him not to wear a Panthers jersey to the game last time I took one of my friends he was wearing a Tomlinson jersey and we about got in a fight with some guys. The sad thing is the Falcons wasn't even playing the Chargers. LOL...