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Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again


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Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 12, 2008 9:43 pm

Didn't think he'd make any all defensive team since he plays pretty poor defense, other than going for steals. He can't really d a man up, lock a guy down, but I guess the voters were impressed by his steals. Iverson led the league in steals numerous times, and he's a pretty lousy defender like Paul. Oh well, I guess Paul was 2nd fiddle to Kobe again, who was the number 1 vote getter for first team all-defense. So let's see, Paul will come 2nd to Kobe in MVP voting, defensive team, 2nd in the west regular season, and soon 2nd in the West playoffs when L.A and Kobe knock N.O out of the playoffs (if S.A doesn't do it first.)

I guess Kobe owns Paul. I guess one would have to say, that Paul is Kobe's little biiiaaatch.


Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 12, 2008 10:48 pm

do you have a problem with Paul coming in second place? Coming in second out of 150 starters in the league is pretty damn awesome. how about you piss on the other 148 players that didn't do as well as Kobe.
Also, you probably have never watched a Hornets game before because CP3 didn't  make 2nd team all defensive team no reason. Idc if he's 6 feet tall, he's a really good defender. so what if Kobe is better than him. he's better than all the other players in the league. So go masturbait to Kobe Bryant and his MVP trophy and get the hell off of our board.

And your welcome for Kobe Bryant.


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May 12, 2008 11:26 pm
Sorry lsu tiger, I didn't mean to upset you by putting Paul down. Congrats  paul coming in second place to Kobe across the board. Nothing wrong with being number 2. Not everyone can be MJ or Kobe. Winners. Champions. The best. Enjoy #2

Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 13, 2008 3:09 am

Sman, you are officially retarded.

Lets assume your smarter than all the voters out there and that Paul doesn't deserve second team all-d and got it based on stats.  Wait thats impossible because your a homer coming to gloat because Kobe won a lifetime-acheivement-award NOT AN MVP.  If your gonna say they were biased for Paul then you have to say the same for Kobe and even more so.

CP is an excellent defender as is Kobe but as a typical homer you come out talking outta your ass.  Save yourself the ridicule and never, ever, ever, ever put MJ and Kobe in the same sentence.  Jordan completely revolutionalized the way the game is played, was superb in every facet of the game, and won 6 championships along with his many other awards.  (and he retired in the middle)

Kobe can put up some pretty spectacular numbers scoring wise, but he is a selfish player.  Kobe could care less about team success the only reason that he pretends to care is because he has realized that he wont get his personal awards (LIKE MVP) by praising his teammates.

Want an example???  Lets see.. Oh yeah it was Sunday when the game was on the line and Ko-Me takes shot after shot.  This is after we were fed all day long on Kobe doing monologues to the camera about how "his teammates got him this" etc.  Kobe is the ultimate "me" player.  C'mon he asked to be traded before the season and now your all over his nuts just cuz you got a complete steal in Gasol?? 

Have some self respect and stop jumping on band wagons; there were no taunts coming from Lakers fans before the season.

As for second fiddle... lol.  This is Pauls 3rd season and Kobes what 10th?  And CP shoulda won it anyway.  Don't talk crap man because CP is MUCH farther along than Kobe was at this point in his career.


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May 13, 2008 10:32 am
By the time Kobe was Pauls age he had won 3 nba championships. Just don't think Paul's a winner or a champion like Kobe and MJ. But like your lsu tiger buddy said, nothing wrong with coming in second. Someone has to come in 2nd, why not Paul. He seems to be really good at it.

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May 13, 2008 10:40 am

I'm not saying this becuase I'm a Hornets, Chris Paul fan; but I would take the 2nd All-Defensive team over the first team anyday. 

First team has 3 Centers - Kevin Garnett, Marcus Camby & Tim Duncan (I know he's listed as a PF, but he plays the center position 75% of the time, I also find it starnge that they bring in PFs and move them to cetner to have him remain a PF); a Small Forward - Bruce Bowen; and a shooting guard - Kobe Bryant

2nd team has a PG in Paul; SG in Raja Bell; SF in Tayshaun Prince; PF in Shane Battier; & cente rin Dwight Howard.

As a team, I think the 2nd team is more complete.

I also like how when stats work in your favor they are important, but when they work against you they are meaningless.


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May 13, 2008 10:48 am

By the time each player was 23, they accomplished:

Kobe - 2 NBA championships (won his 3rd when he was 24), 3 All-Star appearances (2 MVPs), 1 3rd All-NBA appearance, 2 2nd All-NBA appearances, 1 1st All-Defense selection, 1 2nd All defense selection, slam dunk champion, All rookie 2nd team (5 years in the league)

Paul - 1 All Star Appearance, 1 All-NBA team, 1 2nd team all defense, Rookie of the year, All rookie 1st team (3 years)

Through 3 years, Kobe had 1 All-Star Appearance, 1 3rd team All NBA appearance, All rookie 2nd team, Slam Dunk

While you can manipulate it based on age, I can easily turn it around to what they accomplished based on # of years as a pro.


Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 13, 2008 1:56 pm

No Kobe was still 23 when he won his 3rd ring.


Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 13, 2008 1:58 pm
you would know, you were sleeping with him

Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 13, 2008 2:56 pm

you're right.  I just wikipediaed (is that now a word) him and saw he has an August B-day.

Either way.


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May 13, 2008 6:06 pm

I'm being stalked by a 4 '6' midget, named spock. I can't shake the little guy, he's everywhere.


Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 13, 2008 11:37 pm
Don't feel to important there SMAN... we are stalked your moronic comments.   "Kobe this Kobe that Kobe here Kobe there Kobe blah blah blah" and "Paul sucks Paul is this Paul is that Paul blah blah blah... Kobe looked great at the FT line last game oh wait his "back" was hurting...  yeah so he'll play "despite" his back pains so if he has a problem in that game he has an excuse but he plays great its like Jordan you know? He played great with "back pain" ha ha... and stop with the torn tendon... it is in his pinky hate people bringing it up like it alters his shot BC IT DOESN'T...   but keep coming on here good luck against the Jazz we need  them Lakers to take them out so far up 14 for the Hornets...

Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 14, 2008 1:14 am
Want an example???  Lets see.. Oh yeah it was Sunday when the game was on the line and Ko-Me takes shot after shot.  This is after we were fed all day long on Kobe doing monologues to the camera about how "his teammates got him this" etc.  Kobe is the ultimate "me" player.  C'mon he asked to be traded before the season and now your all over his nuts just cuz you got a complete steal in Gasol?? 

You beat me to it.  When the game was on the line Sunday, all the sharing the ball, involving teammates, etc, etc, went out the window, and it became the Kobe Bricklaying Show.  It was obvious his back was hurting, so a really intelligent player would not keep throwing up shots, he would find a way to get whichever teammate had the hot hand some open looks (like Derek Fisher maybe?). 

Instead, it became the Ko-Me show.

As far as the NBA All-Defensive team, it looks to me like this was just a way to pad Bruce Bowens reputation.  If you are a forward and are on the first team, you BETTER be one of the two best forwards.  Obviously, regardless of how they play, Garnett and Duncan are listed as forwards, so Bowen shouldn't be on the first team. 

The first team is missing one position, a point guard., therefore the top point guard, Chris Paul, should be on the first team.  Lets forget the semantics and put it this way,  According to the selections, Chris Paul is the best defensive POINT GUARD in the NBA, and I'll take that anyday.


Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again
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May 14, 2008 11:58 am
Schmalzel wrote: "Don't feel to important there SMAN... we are stalked your moronic comments. "Kobe this Kobe that Kobe here Kobe there Kobe blah blah blah" and "Paul sucks Paul is this Paul is that Paul blah blah blah... Kobe looked great at the FT line last game oh wait his "back" was hurting... yeah so he'll play "despite" his back pains so if he has a problem in that game he has an excuse but he plays great its like Jordan you know? He played great with "back pain" ha ha... and stop with the torn tendon... it is in his pinky hate people bringing it up like it alters his shot BC IT DOESN'T... but keep coming on here good luck against the Jazz we need them Lakers to take them out so far up 14 for the Hornets..."

Huh? How about learning English Schmalzel. Or maybe you could get a friend or relative to help you with your posts.


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May 14, 2008 12:21 pm

Dude you are reeking of Kobe worship!  So far he has won no titles on his own.  The other titles are because of Shaq. He was the dynamic cog in the Lakers most recent title runs.  He almost kicked and screamed his way out of LA before this season like a petulant child.  The Lakers acquire Pau Gasol and he shuts his mouth.  Kobe hasn't put the team first his entire career and all of a sudden he is the "runaway MVP."  Please.  When true adversity hits Kobe will start ball hogging and refuse to trust his teammates just like he has always done. 

This year is his best shot so far.  The Lakers could win it all, but I am not buying the hype yet.  (It is the same story with Boston- ).  Kobe is talented, yes.  He is also selfish and I am not convinced that he raises the level of play of others around him like Chris Paul does. Maybe he does this year, but he hasn't done it yet.

We will see "who owns who" if these two teams play in the next series.  Chris Paul is playing tremendous basketball, even a Lakers fan should concede this.  You lose all credibility with unreasonable posts like this.


Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again