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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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I don't think this should be a non-issue any longer as many of you on the board and, APPARENTLY, Halas Hall been dubbing it.
When Brian Urlacher made it known that he wanted an extension and THEN sat out of voluntary offseason workouts, many people made it seem as though this was just Urlacher "creating smoke where there wasn't a fire." Based on statements from Jerry Angelo and a song by team ownership, we were all under the guise that this wouldn't go very far...
... But that's just not the case if you ask Brian Urlacher.
He feels the Bears have had a vary lax attitude toward the subject and in return plans on missing a mandatory mini camp on May 30 to June 1.
“I would bet I wouldn’t be there,” Urlacher said from Arizona, where he has spent most of the offseason. “My agents and the team had some good dialogue early on, but nothing’s happened lately. It’s been almost two months since there’s been any action on their end, and it’s a waiting game right now.”
Asked if he might consider missing training camp, Urlacher said, “I haven’t even thought about it. I’m hoping it doesn’t get that far.”
Lets be clear... there is a VERY big difference from missing a voluntary training camp and a mandatory one. But there is a HUGE difference from missing a mandatory mini camp and the ACTUAL training camp. So, I'm not too worried yet. But it should send a signal to Jerry Angelo that Urlacher is NOT interested in waiting until LTER to get this squared away.
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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The Bears offered Urlacher a very fair 1 year $18 million extension that would give him $5 million up front and potentially adds $1 million to every year thru 2011 based on performance escalators, as all of you know already. I guess Brian is upset about the $5 million guaranteed, or maybe he's upset that it's only a 1 year extension. I'm not sure, but if Brian performs like we all expect, then the guaranteed money is meaningless, he'll get paid the whole amount anyway.
The way I see it, the only reason for players to be concerned about guaranteed money is that they feel that they are incapable of performing to the standards set by the contract and want to make sure that they make enough money, just in case they are busts. If Urlacher did not have the injury concerns, I'm sure the Bears would have offered much more guaranteed money, knowing that he will perform up to expectations.
I mean, Brian can't have his cake and eat it too. He wanted an extension, he got one, and he's upset that the guaranteed money isn't high enough? Go out and play, prove to the Bears that your injuries are not a liability, and then you will be signed until at least 2013 like you wanted, Brian.
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Thank you Chi-Marine! I was hoping somebody would be talking about this. I feel like what's going on with Brian Urlacher now deserves the most attention of any Bears player. What's happening with Cedric Benson not only can but needs to wait until his day in court.
Urlacher sitting out of mandatory mini-camp is a big deal because it's going to cause a stir in the locker room. It's not a massive deal yet, but it's a big deal. It sets the stage for speculation among the players and people taking sides. We've all seen the effects of a locker room that's not united.
The bottom line is, you need to pay this man. Even if you lace the deal with bunches of incentives, you need to pay this man. I would do whatever is necessary to get Tommie Harris and Urlacher deals before mini-camp. I would tell Devin Hester that we'll work on his contract a little bit now and then try to get it taken care of right away next offseason. To me, if you're the Bears management, you have to make Brian Urlacher your priority and the sooner the better.
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Tool: I generally hear the guaranteed money argument based on one of two ideas. First is that it protects you against the unexpected. Decline in play isn't the thought; injury is. I don't understand the mechanisms of all of this, but I know that if a player is injured pretty badly, then the team and the player can come to an injury settlement. I think this is based off the guaranteed money.
Second, it's a matter of respect. You guarantee a player what you feel it's certain (as much as it's possible to be certain of anything) he's capable of earning. A million a year is a slap in the face in the respect department. Heck, look at Robbie Gould's contract! It being a 5 year, 15 million contract tells me that he's probably getting over a million a year in guarantees.
I said the Bears should give an incentive laden contract, and I believe that. I believe that every team should always give contracts that are just HEAVY with incentives. But for a player like Brian Urlacher, you need to show some respect with guarantees too. Though I think this is something that they could/can/will get figured out fairly quickly when they get back to the table. In the Sun-Times interview it's apparent that there's been little in the way of talking recently. I just hope that changes now.
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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When I was talking about guaranteed money, the idea about injuries was implied. I guess after reading it over, it really wasn't that clear. So I meant to say that, other than perceived injuries, I'd think that a player would be skeptical about his own abilities, which is why he'd want as much money as possible without having to perform for it. Good catch, BloodyDrunk, my bad. What I wanted to say was that it looks like Brian is unsure that he will be able to maintain his productivity, which is why he wants more guaranteed money. I understand the giving players respect thing, but I feel it's more respectful to a player to give them a contract that is attainable, where the player actually has a shot at making the full amount, instead of that whole Lavar Arrington debacle. That was a disgraceful act by the NFL.
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Non- C. Benson Talk: Urlacher to Miss Mini-Camp?
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I got this from Fanball.com
As much as Urlacher's absence from training camp sends signals .... understand that he probably wouldn't suit up and or take contact drills anyways recovering from his injuries. Its more symbolic than anything else ... no offense to Brian but he basically took the Lions share of the salary in the beginning and now is in the lower tier of it, in essence ... he should honor the entire contract as opposed to the just complaining about the current lower paid years of it. I want him to end his career as a Bear, he's been the face of the franchise for years ... BUT I never thought Junior Seau who was So Cal born, played at USC and then played for the Chargers ever leave due to money either. The NFL is a business, but I do hope there could be a "reasonable" resolution to this problem as opposed to dragging it out in the media
The News
Brian Urlacher may skip the Bears' mandatory minicamp, in protest of his contract situation, according to ProFootballTalk.com. Urlacher said, "I would bet I won't be there. My agents and the team had some good dialogue early on, but nothing’s happened lately. It’s been almost two months since there’s been any action on their end, and it’s a waiting game right now." When asked about missing training camp, Urlacher said he hasn't thought about that, and hopes it doesn't get that far.
Our View
Urlacher wants to tear up his contract (and work out a new deal), which has four years left on it. He is obligated to honor his contract, if he likes it or not. Urlacher is currently recovering from neck surgery and reportedly has a degenerative condition in his back, and should leave well enough alone.
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Angelo has pretty much made it clear that his priorities lie with Tommie Harris. Phillips has gone as far to say that Urlacher should appreciate the value of his current contract. Don't forget the Bears handed the guy $13M up front on this current contract. He and his agents posturing worry me little. Even if he refuses to come to TC, the Bears have the leverage.
I do not think the Bears are unwilling to renegotiate. But, for all kinds of reasons, they definitely do not want to give the appearance of dancing to his tune. And, I think that it is important that they maintain that perception.
As much as I love Urlacher as a player and realize his importance to their defense, I also think his desire to "jump the line" so to speak is a bit selfish in the "team first" scheme of things.
Then, there is the back and the surgical procedure on his neck. With his experience and background in this defense, how much TC does he really need? I think the Bears realize that and are willing to call his bluff in the short term. Brian's ego may be a bit bruised because, for now, the Bears have pretty much told his agents to get back in line.
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Brian Urlacher's main point is if you dont perform in the NFL you are going to get cut or redo your contract and take less money. In the NFL the only thing that is guaranteed is your signing bonus and if you screw up | |