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It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary


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It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 14, 2008 11:07 pm
I have been watching Dan Cleary before and after the broken jaw and I think he made the wrong decision to go with the surgery.  Since he has come back he has not been effective at all.  The guy logs 20 minutes a night and gets time on the PP.  Yet he has the same stats as Darren McCarty in the playoffs, who averages a quarter of the ice time.  I loved the way he played before the broken jaw, but now he seems to shy away from the big hits along the boards and the physical play in front of the net.  I know why he opted for the surgery, to come back for the playoffs.  But damn, he lost all the spark that he had by doing it. 

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 15, 2008 12:44 pm
I can't believe he didn't put that shot in last night. Oh well. We've got to believe in him, he's been out forever so i'm sure he'll light it up again next season, maybe next series.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 15, 2008 6:40 pm

I think you are being a little unfair with Cleary. I've seen him starting to bang more this round and he has been an effective checking forward. There are also two big reasons for a drop in offensive production. That cage/mask/protector infringes on his vision when a puck is in his skates, like the one he missed last night. When he came back he was dropped to the 3rd line. Before the injury he was playing the 2nd line and Franzen was on the 3rd. He wasn't going to bump Franzen with his roll. The 3rd line is a checking line centered by Draper. Sorry, Draper is good player but is of no help when it comes to offensive stats. He plays on the 2nd powerplay unit which is currently shorthanded as Franzen normally centers that unit. Cleary is averaging 17 minutes of ice time not 20

Whether or not he had the surgery is a personal choice on his part that you shouldn't question. He was going to do what was best for his long-term health as he should.  While he and everyone else would like him to have better stats give him a break. He came back to help the team. His jaw is not 100% healed yet, and let's see how you return after losing 30 lbs. while not able to eat.


It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 15, 2008 11:59 pm
I'm a huge Daniel Cleary fan, and I understand that it' hard to come back from that injury.  He has been back since late March.  But you still need to perform when you are logging that much ice time.  He's on a scoring line now, not a checking line.  If he's not effective, bump him down to the 4th line until he starts performing like he was earlier in the season, and get Darren Helm some extra ice time on the 3rd or second line since he's earned it.  There is no shame in that.  But as unfortunate as his accident was, ice time still has to be earned.  Jiri Hudler also would deserve some extra ice time right now over Cleary.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 16, 2008 5:20 pm
I feel the same way.  I want to see him scratched.  The others are making more of a difference and can be seen delivering more hits and digging out more pucks.  The Dan Cleary we saw last year generated more scoring chances than anyone except Datsyuk and Zetterberg, and missed 95% of them.  Post-injury Cleary doesn't even generate the opportunity to blow the shots.  He's waaaay to expensive now to go back to last year's Cleary or keep rolling with present Cleary, but scratching his slack butt for a couple of games might be enough to show him the return path to greatness.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 16, 2008 6:24 pm

The worst thing the Wings did was give this guy a contract extension, WHILE HE WAS INJURED.  Come on Holland, THINK.  Cleary looks tenative in the scrums and he hasn't lite that light, now has he?  I always felt he was, maybe a B player, not a corner stone.

He needs to "Announce his Presence" tomorrow, cause it will be sometime before Franzan returns.

 


It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 16, 2008 6:31 pm

We all want secondary scoring and Franzen is out right now. Filpula, Sammy, and Cleary.....witch seems to still be in pain....they all need to step up!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

GO WINGS!


It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 16, 2008 6:34 pm

Whether or not he had the surgery is a personal choice on his part that you shouldn't question. He was going to do what was best for his long-term health as he should.  While he and everyone else would like him to have better stats give him a break. He came back to help the team. His jaw is not 100% healed yet, and let's see how you return after losing 30 lbs. while not able to eat.

Well said! Give the guy a break....I love Clear!  He will be ok, I believe that.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 17, 2008 4:17 pm
He blew it again today.  I hate when the solution is so obvious and Babcock misses it like this.  DAN CLEARY MUST BE SCRATCHED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 17, 2008 4:20 pm
Your opinion means shit to me!!!!

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May 17, 2008 11:12 pm

If that same exact play happened with the #1 line, you would say that Turco made a spectacular save against Zetterberg or Datsyuk, but because it was against Cleary it was all Cleary's fault.


It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 19, 2008 11:16 am
And yet the #1 line scores on a significant percentage of those plays.  I've got the statistics on my side.  Cleary has a bunch of missed and botched chances on his.  We have too much invested to never play him again, but sometimes you have to send a message to a player that the status quo is unacceptable.

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May 19, 2008 1:33 pm

I'm a huge fan of Cleary, and before the playoffs, i said that him and Franzen needed to step up in a big way to take some pressure of our top line. Franzen really took that to heart apparently, and was scoring enough for the both of them. With him out, Cleary needs to assert himself on that second line, or be demoted...maybe sat, though i'm not sure about that one. It's now his job to take over where Franzen left off. If he can't do that, then he doesn't deserve to be on that second line. As was mentioned earlier, Hudler and Helm have both been playing phenomenal, and I think would do some good on that line. Helm and Filppula would be great just because of their speed.

Bottom line is, Cleary has been tentative since he came back. This is understandable, yet unacceptable in the playoffs. If you can't contribute, you sit. He missed a golden opportunity to put that puck in, and if Datsyuk, Zetterburg or Holmstrom would have made that mistake, I wouldn't let them off the hook either.

Cleary has played well enough earlier this year to start on that second line. If he doesn't up his game, Babs should move someone else in that spot. The Wings need a win tonight.

Go Wings!!


It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 25, 2008 10:29 am
Good SH goal last nite.  Hope this gets this guy going cause we need Dan to contribute if we hope to win the CUP.  Noticed that the chin guard was gone, I like that, cause it is the Finals.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 25, 2008 2:47 pm

Amazing! Cleary notches a shorty last night and instantly killed this discussion!

It was a bullsh!t discussion anyway! Cleary may not be scoring like he used to but he works his a$$ off and contributes by doing anything he can even if it is just playing a role while others do most of the scoring.

One thing I have to ask of those people who think he should be scratched; who would you bring up in Cleary's place?


It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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May 25, 2008 7:01 pm
I have to admit i was dissapointed with Dan's production post- jaw injury. however someone brought to my attention that with that mask on he would have a very hard time with stick eye coordination. so i cut him some slack and look what happens the game he takes the mask off. hopefully game on will give our 2,3,and 4 lines some confidence for the rest of the series. because they won the game for us.

It;s Time to Call Out Dan Cleary
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