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Even as a Stars fan, I have enough dignity to say that we should've lost the game tonight. The Datsyuk goal obviously should have counted and Turco, though the stats look good, mishandled a lot of pucks that should have led to goals. Hopefully, the luck will continue but I wouldn't bet on it. Zetterberg is amazing, he might be better than Crosby.
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Good on ya for being honest, Sam. I'm so tired of all the people blaming refs, spouting conspriacy theories, and doing anything but accept the fact that calls get missed and sometimes one team just gets some breaks. These things tend to even themselves out, especially over a best-of-seven series.
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aint going to game 7 all over next game
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aint going to game 7 all over next game
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As a Wings fan, I have to say the Stars played a hell of a game. From the opening faceoff to the free-for-all in the last 10 seconds they really played to stay alive. Now I highly doubt that they can keep it up for 3 more games, but at least they made the series interesting.
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Detroit fans are the biggest whiners in all of sports!
What about the first three games???? Dallas lost 2 of them due to bad calls!!!!!!!!!! It should be at a minimum 2-2 if all calls where appropriate to this point... What WhinerS!!!!!!!!
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The only person I see whining is you.
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Dallas is a great team, and even though I am a die-hard Redwings fan, I did not really want a sweep. I think the series will end Saturday night in Detroit!! The Stars' win had a bit of controversy, but that's okay! I have always loved watching Modano and Morrow play and I will admit I am shocked to see that Detroit had a 3-0 game lead. The Redwings are playing near-dominant hockey right now, and I can't wait for the Stanley Cup finals!! I thought Philly would be giving Pittsburgh more to worry about, but it looks like the Penguins vs. Redwings for the Cup this year!! I hope Saturday night's contest is a great game in Detroit.........and GO REDWINGS!!!!!!
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Since:Apr 24, 2007
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All that has been written for the first three games was how the refs have been stealing from Dallas, then the refs completely make up a call and the Red Wings fans lament and they are the biggest whiners? The only thing I can glean from such an obviously unintelligent comunication is that danno123 cannot read. If he could he would have realized that the only whining to this point is coming from the mouths of Dallas fans and maybe the Stars goalie Turco. Turco whining I can understand, because if he wasn't whining he might actually have to justify his innept goaltending this series, admit that maybe he isn't good enough to beat the Red Wings and slink off and resume being the complete non-entity that he has allways been. The thing that amazes me is that such a bunch of no talent maulers could question the Red Wings character. Turco has no class at all. He trys to elevate himslf to the status of a Lindstrom, and he isn't even close. His tripping of players and they skate by the crease, his punching people in the back of the head ( where I'm from that is the definition of a coward) and his whacking of people with his stick are just symptomatic of his complete lack of class. Osgoods stick work on the criminal from Dallas at the end of game three was regretable, and I'm sure that Babcock let him know after the game that he doesn't play for Dallas and that kind of behavior won't be tolerated in Detroit.
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What kind of Stars fan are you anyways. I can agree that the disallowed goal should have counted, but to claim Stars should have lost is an extremely negetive pressumption for the team you supposedly root for. Okay the goal should have counted, sh!t happens, everyone gets the short end of the stick with the refs at some point. Yes you can argue momentum or conversely point at the final score to argue if this call made a difference but when it comes down to it, arguing "what if" is completely pointless. It was what it was and Detroit had 1 and a half periods to make up that goal so it is not like they disallowed this goal in the final seconds of the game. THe Red Wings had the chance to try and recover. I thought Dallas played a lot better last night and looked like they were going to find a way to win instead of a way to lose as it was earlier in the series. I am proud of my team, not giving up and keeping up the fight even though we are missing some key players from our team right now and in a nearly impossible hole. Dallas could of decided that last night's game was a free for all for them to get their licks on the Detroit players before they advanced, but instead fought it out as a team for the win. Yes there was some luck involved but every single team no matter how good needs a little luck to advance in every round, whether it is the officiating, lucky puck bounce, or whatever. THe Stars did get the short end of the stick the first two games with the officiating, but I am not going to argue momentum or conspiracy theories, because once again it is pointless. I am more just trying to point out to people who want to argue this either way that the entire series (and most of the playoffs) has had horrible officiating and both teams have had a little luck. And instead of saying Detroit was given game 1 by the refs and now saying the refs won game 4, why not give the opposing team the respect it deserves for getting this far and playing the game and I am talking to both sides. Both teams are great teams so lets quit belittling the other team by saying the refs gave the wins to them (and both sides could try to argue that with the calls). To paraphrase Tippet (I think during the SJ series where we ended up on the wrong side of disallowed goals)," You can't control the refs and mistakes happen, but we got to play our game good enough that these mistakes don't become the difference in the game"
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With your post,pure genius,i would "glean"that you were the one who COULDN'T read.How else can it be explained that all youve seen is "how the refs have been stealing from Dallas".All i've seen is how much better Detroit is than the Stars.Now i am not going to say that it is not true at this point,it would be hard to,down 3 games to 1,but it has not been as 1 sided as Red Wing fans,such as yourself, would have us believe.AND,if the stars had gotten a couple of breaks,the series could easily be tied.As far as your comments about Dallas being "no talent maulers",whose goalie is both "classless,and cheap"leads me to believe that you should sign in under "pure stupidity",esp. if you think that Osgood's behavior at the end of game 3 was an isolated instance.Anyways,heres to Dallas building off game 4's victory and completing the SWEEP................GO STARS
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Level:All-Star
Since:Oct 1, 2006
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The only person I see whining is you.
I take it you are not reading any of the other threads?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Sep 24, 2006
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I am absolutely fine with breaks helping teams to win and sometimes there is a bad call. The Stars won the game, maybe they deserved it maybe not, maybe they would have still won had the goal counted maybe not. These points could be argued about till were all blue in the face it won't change last nights game. And us Detroit fans are wrong for making such arguments. The wings tied the game and had there chances to win way after the disputed goal, but because of the play of Turco and a couple of fine plays from the forwards Dallas came out on top. However there is another point that in my opinion can't be argued by you Dallas fans and thats..... The Wings completely dominated the play the first 3 games. The puck possesion, face offs, hits, scoring chances and obviously goals were not even close. This had nothing to do with the refs. The Wings were skating the Stars into the ground and any calls by the refs were made because the Stars couldn't keep up. The only chance the Stars had in the first 3 games is if Turco would have played like last night then maybe and I mean MAYBE they would have stole a game. He finally did last night and with a couple of nice plays and a little luck they won. This is not that hard of an argument. So far Detroit has been head and shoulders better with last night being the first game that was really that fun to watch with back and forth action. It shows that even with everything going their way that Dallas still had to fight and scrath their way to a win. I'm sorry I just don't see that happening 3 more times.
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Since:Sep 7, 2006
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This post is mainly directed at "PureG"
I was going to go into detail about how flawed your post was; but decided that anyone who knows anything about hockey would see your glaring immaturity. You might be a great Red Wings fan, but you know so little about being a decent hockey fan it's almost sad. Do you really believe there is a higher ethical standard that Detroit holds itself to? That Dallas is just a bunch of "no-talent maulers" and that Turco is not a good goalie? I understand that Detroit is a great team right now - probably way to much for the Stars to handle this year but they are both competing in the Western conference finals, and that in itself speaks volumes about the resolve of both clubs. "Pure Genius" - no, not really. Your viewpoint is quite simple minded.
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Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 24, 2007
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Great post, I agree with it allmost point for point. I didn't realize that the Wings had benefited from the refs calls the first two games, I guess because I am a Wings fan I simply thought they had outplayed the Stars both games. I don't believe that the Wings were scorched by the refs last night either, they had plenty of time to overcome the bad call and didn't. The Stars were simply better last night, no other way to explain it. The problem I see with the disallowed goal in the game last night was that it was a completely fabricated call, it simply didn't exist. Refs should only call what happens in a game and not create the game as they go along. This is what is ruining sports at the professional level, games being deceided by non competitors. NBA basketball is the worst for this and I rarely watch it because of the way it is refereeded. This has been a great series and fans on both sides of the issue would be better served to not dwell on the things that they think are causing their team to lose but rather on the things their team needs to do to win.
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Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 24, 2007
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Lucky, I didn't realize I might offend someone from that hockey breeding grounds that is New Mexico. When did you become interested in hockey, when the North Stars moved to Dallas and the Cowboy's stopped winning super bowls? I now must assume that you to Lucky are not able to read, or at the very least comprehend what you are reading, because it was Turco who went to the papers and questioned the Red Wings lack of character. But it was Turco who was deliberately tripping players as they skated by the crease, punched players from behind (must be consdered an act of bravery down there in the dessert) and slashing players because they have the gaul to stand legally in front of the net. I am not even going to mention all the interference that is happening behind the play to the Wings superior skaters because if the game were to be decieded by skill the Red Wings would have a huge advantage. It has been an interesting series, one of divergent styles. The Wings attempt to go forward using a lot of skill and a little brawn. The Star's on the other hand attempt to move forward using a lot of brawn and a little skill.
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