I apologize if I have misled any Tiger fans on this board. For weeks I have been referring to the Tigers as over-hyped and under performing....calling them a flawed ball club. I was wrong! The Detroit Tigers are just a bad ball club. No hit, no field, no pitch, no heart. It is a real shame that Mr. Illitch and Mr. Dombrowski foisted this collection of inadequate ball players on such quality fans as Tiger fans.
Kudos goes to Ivan Rodgriguez who still shows a little fire out there.
I agree. Also Why is Sheffeild still playing??? Everyone is talking about Hernandez the pitching coach .. What about Leyland?? Can anyone dare to call for his demise...With the talent the Tigers have somethings not right. Are the players dictacting to management??
I dont think its leyland fault. Besides who else could do a better job? I feel the coach gets to much blame for losses and too much credit for wins. The Tigers just plain arent hitting and no one seems to know why. The pitiching hasnt been that bad lately just not getting any help from the hitters. they got holimon in toledo who hit 10 hrs in 8 games. they should give him a shot although hedoes play 2nd base. maybe DH him he couldnt do any worse than sheffield. some shakeup needs to be made just to wake these guys up a bit.
Oh we dont need more dh's.....hmmmm.....lets see sheffield .189....thames.224 wow hitting very well there....guillen plays 3rd and ordonez plays right.....hmmm not dh's...you have guys hitting lights out in toledo and guys in detroit who have turned the lights out....a little shakeup wouldnt hurt. But i see iffy u dont mind if they take the entire season to break out of slump.....maybe we can have a big finale the last series in september where all those guys finally hit. I'm not saying that the guys in toledo are going to save the day but why not give them a shot. at this point what do they have to lose.
Looks like YOU are following the club closely this year! "Guillen plays 3rd" - is that what you call it? I wasn't sure WHAT he was doing....or what he was trying to do at 1st either. Ordonez plays right.....yes he does....for a team that doesn't care about fielding. Ordonez has never been a good outfielder, but he is adequate, I suppose, when you have "pure" DHers like Sheffield, Carlos Guillen, Marchus Thames, and CABRERA!.
I have no problem bringing up guys from Toledo. But we better have someplace, ON THE FIELD, to play them. Adding one dimensional players to the team is how we got to the point we are now.
Iffy, you must have lost some sleep or something, you are usually right on, but to say that Mag's is not a good outfielder is not accurate at all, and not supported by any stats that I can find.
Case in point this year .988 fielding % with 1 error, 2007- .996 fielding %, tops among RF in the AL and only 1 error. 2006 - .974 / 7 errors. 2005 - .993 / 1 error. These are not the stats of an outfielder who is not good defensively.
I have also heard several MLB analysts comment on Mag's strong fiedling ability.
Look at the Range Factor for Ordonez.....he doesn't cover a lot of ground, very few outfield assists. He is not a butcher out there, but he is a long way from a Gold Glove. He's a type of corner outfielder that REQUIRES a speedy centerfielder to cover the gap.
Ok iffy u are no doubt just a whiny tiger fan. You probably never have anything positive to say about the team. Why would adding a player from toledo be only a dh...Holimon plays 2nd and hessman plays 3rd and 1st. those guys could either play the field and give the guys a break or play dh. So I dont know where u get the whole one dimensional thing at. maybe that is cause u are a one dimensional tiger fan...u only see the negative.
Iffy has no answers, but just likes to point out why the Tigers won't win. I want to hear Iffy go on record to let us all know who will win the AL Central. I'm guessing he will say they all suck and no one will win.
Just like I said BEFORE the season started - Indians. Superior pitching.
Now watch this clown (statscbl)...he'll start screaming I am some renegade Cleveland fan, sent here by some Cleveland Indians organization that sends covert operatives to Tiger boards. Poor guy has been so busy his entire life being a "yes man" and sucking up, that he is astonished that anyone can NOT just follow the company line.
As for answers....If you would read my posts instead of just doing your "knee-jerk" reactions to ANY thing I say, you'd have seen a lot of "answers" to why the Tigers won't win.
Good call on the Indians Iffy. They have superior pitching to the Tigers. Carmona lasted a whole 2 innings, which is good and only gave up 6 runs. The Indians have now lost 7 in a row. You are a frickin genius. I apologize. The Tigers don't stand a chance against a team so good.
