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Reputation:24
Level:Amateur
Since:Sep 21, 2007

April 23, 2008 12:01 am

Pete has knows NADA about football.These players produced what can be atleast expected from a first round pick and enough not to be labeled as a busts:

Ike Hilliard---6 years with attleast 50+ catchs

terrell buckley----50 ints,6tds

Leonard Russel-- hit the 1000 yard mark twice

Peter Warick -did catch 70 plus balls twice and 50 + twice while playing with AKAIL SMITH

Thomas Jones--has ran for 1000 yards the past the YEARS

 


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Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Sep 15, 2006

April 23, 2008 1:12 am
Most of his assesments were dead on, but some of the guys did seem like reaches as 'busts' or 'misses'.  Hilliard has been producing for some pretty bad offenses for a decade, Buckley is top 20 in career INTs and Thomas Jones produced after he left the abyss that is Arizona footbal.

Players that should not be on this list
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Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Sep 15, 2006

April 23, 2008 1:15 am
Buckley is tied for 31 on the carreer INT list, I just checked. No need to call me out on it stat buffs.

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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 28, 2006

April 23, 2008 2:54 am
Maybe Ike Hilliard wasn't top ten material but there is no way you can say he was a bust. He had a pretty decent career.


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Reputation:83
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 1, 2008

April 23, 2008 4:00 am
The writer could have potentially diffused these fires in advance by stating his interpretation of the word, "B-U-S-T."


Some players failed because their skill sets simply weren't good enough to produce the desired results. That  is within a players control and qualifies him as a BUST in my book, although the team should assume some responsibility for missing on the evaluation.

Some players failed because they either didn't have the work ethic, drive, heart and/or desire to fulfill their promising potential. Here, the player should take full responsibility for this variable, and this would qualify the player as a BUST in my book.

Some players failed to make it big in the league due to emotional disorders. This one is a little more tricky, but most emotional conditions can be treated with therapy and medications these days, so I'd be inclined to place responsibility on the players shoulders in this regard and classify him as a BUST in my book. At the same time, a super talented player could potentially drop in the draft due to these concerns and an organization like the Minnesota Vikings could value the potential upside of a player like Randy Moss as being greater than the potential risk of drafting a potential "character issue" with such a high pick. It goes both ways, and if a player's mental  is known going into the draft, then the team should absolutely assume some of that risk. But it's hard to blame a team for the unforgivable decisions made by Darrell Russell and Rae Carruth.

Some players never met expectations because they artificially raised the level of expectations by taking performance enhancing drugs in HS and/or college. The player should be punished for this because the decision is ultimately on him (cutting corners = short term gain in exchange for long-term pain). However, NFL teams shouldn't draft players unless they've done their due diligence, and if the appropriate steps have been carried out in the process of evaluation, then an organization should have some control over its exposure to PED liabilities. Ultimately, I'd put this one on the individual player and he'd qualify as a BUST in my book.

Some players have bodies that never allowed them to fulfill their true athletic potential due to an unfortunate circumstances relating to injuries. I believe Courtney Brown is still a starting DE somewhere in the league, so it's hard to put him down as a bust, but with or without the injury history, his production never matched the freakish expectations levied upon him going into the draft. I'm not sure it's fair to blame an individual player for failing to meet expectations if he's physically unable to perform at such levels. I wouldn't classify an injured player a BUST.

And speaking of Courtney Brown, another example comes to mind. Linebacker LaVar Arrington. I see he's listed as a BUST, but didn't he go to something like 4 consecutive Pro Bowls? If someone asked Troy Aikman to offer his opinion about LaVar Arrington and his ability to perform at a high level as a playmaking Linebacker in the NFL, well, forgive him if becomes distracted by flashbacks of LaVar chasing him down like a cheetah closing in on a wounded duck. Afterall, that was the last hit Aikman's body absorbed as an NFL football player.


Anyway, the writer could have definitely done us all a big favor by defining the criteria he used to determine the bust factor for all the players cited in his story.

That's my two cents.

Another one your forgot
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Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:Sep 28, 2007

April 23, 2008 4:22 am
Desmond Howard may have been a bust as a receiver, but this first round pick was not a bust.  He was MVP of a Super Bowl.  The ONE Super Bowl that Brett Favre the Great has to his name, that would never have been won had it not been for Howard's TWO returns for touchdowns, something that you will probably never see in a Super Bowl again.  Favre owes a large part of his legacy to Howard and that one win whether you believe it or not.  And Howard was widely recognized as the most dangerous return man in the game when he played.  Not worthy of a top five pick perhaps, but not a bust.

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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 29, 2007

April 23, 2008 4:58 am

2 players that stuck in my head as I read your article that should not be busts....

#1 Rae Carruth- He didn't suck, he was just a murderer. How can a GM predict something like that?

#2 Desmond Howard- MVP of superbowl XXXL and the only special teams MVP ever. Also not a bust.


Another one your forgot
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Reputation:89
Level:All-Star
Since:Oct 15, 2007

April 23, 2008 6:27 am
Desmond Howard may have been a bust as a receiver, but this first round pick was not a bust.  He was MVP of a Super Bowl.  The ONE Super Bowl that Brett Favre the Great has to his name, that would never have been won had it not been for Howard's TWO returns for touchdowns, something that you will probably never see in a Super Bowl again.  Favre owes a large part of his legacy to Howard and that one win whether you believe it or not.  And Howard was widely recognized as the most dangerous return man in the game when he played.  Not worthy of a top five pick perhaps, but not a bust.

Incorrect.  Desmond Howard had 1 touchdown in super bowl 31.  A 99 yard kickoff return for a touchdown.  He had 154 kick return yards and 90 punt return yards, which gave him the most impressive returner preformence in Super Bowl history. 

That being said, "Brett Favre the Great"  was 14-27 with 246 yards and 2 tds with no interceptions.  He also ran for another touchdown.  Brett's 3 TD preformance should have won him Super Bowl MVP and it is a huge mistake on the part of the voters not giving him the MVP.

Although, I quite agree with you, Howard was not really "a bust."


Another one your forgot
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Reputation:91
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 14, 2006

April 23, 2008 6:38 am
Well I guess after the Redskins drafted Desmond Howard with the number four pick they should have come out and told all the fans, "we think we just spent the number four pick in the draft on the best special teams player out there."  Desmond Howard is a bust.  He was drafted to be a number one wide receiver, not a kick returner.  I guess the Dolphins just screwed up using the first pick on an offensive tackle instead of looking for that special teams gem of a player.