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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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Since:Aug 30, 2006
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UM played in nasty weather and looked awful, then played in okay weather and looked like the best offense in the NCAA
I think the weather in that game hurt Ohio State more than Michigan, Todd Boeckman for some reason can not get ahold of the ball in rain (he did the same stuff he did @ Michigan last year in the spring game) he was fumbling all day and if he did get a pass off it was a ugly pass. If the game were in just normal conditions Ohio State probably would had ran away with the game
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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this doesnt take them beating you in the NC game away though.
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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Michigan and Ohio State played in the nasty weather...rain and 39 in Ann Arbor that afternoon. The next coldest Michigan game was in Madison against Wisconsin and it was 46 at that game. The rest of the games ranged from 87 (on 6 October) to 54.
UGA played Georgia Tech and the temps were in the mid-forties with light rain and wind. Not exactly the Tropics. The Auburn game the week before was played in the late PM with end of game temps around 48F.
I know it is more difficult to play in the cold. I am merely saying this is not the NFL. It is not Buffalo or Green Bay or Cleveland in NFL playoff games. Some folks would lead you to believe it was the Packer-Cowboy Ice Bowl every weekend.
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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I know it is more difficult to play in the cold. I am merely saying this is not the NFL. It is not Buffalo or Green Bay or Cleveland in NFL playoff games. Some folks would lead you to believe it was the Packer-Cowboy Ice Bowl every weekend.
yea, I cant even remember seeing a college football game being played in a driving snow storm
but I have seen some heavy rain games, but rain does not always = cold
Packer-Cowboy ice bowl type games are a rare occurrence
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Since:Jan 9, 2007
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Tall --
"That's the reality of the situation my friend...USC played no top-15 teams this past year while LSU beat 5 top-15 teams....there's no comparison...SEC teams won 7 bowl games, finished #1 & #2 last year and both UGA and UF will almost certainly be better this year... if the Big-12 has a strong year, maybe they could make the same argument."
1. USC played 3 teams that made it to the #2 spot and played them ALL on the ROAD. Oregon... loss. Cal... won ASU ... won. Additionally, we beat Oregon State at home who became ranked.
2. USC played AT Nebraska when they were ranked. Not to mention the whupping we gave Illinois who beat Ohio State at Ohio State.
3. You also lost to Arkansas and Kentucky... you are not invincible. Got pretty lucky versus Florida and Auburn. and squeaked one at Alabama.
4. You did not play that #2 team Georgia that did not even get to the conference championship game... kind of warps perception don't you think?
5. You played Va Tech at home, South Carolina at home, Florida at home, Auburn at home, Tennessee in a less than spectacular win on a neutral site. Cal beat that team. Getting the picture? Wait a second you lost at Kentucky and almost lost at Alabama.
Come on Tall. LSU is great, but the stars lined up for them this year. I would have love to seen USC vs LSU or Georgia. Hopefully this year.
SEC won 7 bowl games. I am not sure I would get all that excited about conference runner up Tennessee barely beating Big Ten's #4 team, or Kentucky barely beating a much depleted FSU team or Miss st beating UCF or Georgia over Hawaii. Only solid wins I though were Auburn, Alabama (both close games) and LSU dominating. Great. I said it all along I think they have a lot of talent. I also think the the Big 12 had some serious talent this year. Heck their 4th place team whupped up on our runner up in the Pac 10. But, you keep forgetting... you do not play all those teams. So stop using that as a measuring stick. Michigan has proven it can play with the SEC. So has USC. The SEC is not the end all of college football.
I think this year you will see the Pac 10 field a more competitive field with USC, ASU, Oregon, Oregon St and I think UCLA and Washington are going to rise this year. UCLA should have beaten #18 BYU and Washington showed its grit in beting a ranked Boise St team (they are young with an exciting QB)
No doubt Florida will be better... they took a transfer running back from USC who could not get much playing time! ;-) UGA is going to be great. Cannot wait to see them play in Tempe.
Peace out brother.
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Since:Aug 28, 2006
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Let's say (for fun) last year still ended up ending just like it did except that LSU and VT never played. LSU still goes to the NC and wins but instead we replace VT with let's say Tulsa who would not be a quality OOC.
LSU wouldn't have played for the national title without the win over VT, but I'll play along and pretend they would have.
So LSU wins the NC and still ends up (here comes your favorite stat) instead of having played and beat 5 teams that finished in the top 15, now it becomes 4 and still more than anyone else.
The reason I can't stand the "top 15 win" stat is because Auburn, Florida, and Tennessee were all questionable top 15 teams who all lost OOC games to teams outside the top 15. Look at this way:
LSU gets credit for beating "top 15" Florida, but OSU doesn't get a "top 15" win over Michigan. Same losses and Michigan beat Florida. Now, if you think for a minute that that's justifiable, I give up.
You can do the same thing for USF and Auburn. USF beat WVU and Auburn, lost 4 games, but finished way behind Auburn, who only beat Florida and Clemson, lost @ home to USF, and also lost 4 games. So, LSU gets a "top 15" win over an Auburn team whose 2nd best win was over Clemson in its bowl game, while a team like Oregon doesn't even get credit for a "ranked" win after they drilled USF.
Good luck trying to justify that also. Come on Knut. Aren't you better than playing the "top 15 win" game? Give me a break. What a meaningless stat. But, it is expected. When in doubt, SEC fans can always use rankings.
Does that lessen the year they had in your opinion?
Of course it lessens the year they had. They beat OSU. Solid win. Then, the other "good" wins would only be against a 4 loss Auburn team that lost at home to USF, a 4 loss Tennessee team that lost to Cal,and a 4 loss Florida team that lost to Michigan.
So, let's review:
Quality wins: OSU, Tennessee, Florida, and Auburn.
Bad losses: Arkansas and Kentucky
Sorry Knut, but there is nothing special about that. Add the VT win and it changes from a good year to a great year.
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Since:Nov 21, 2006
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No doubt Florida will be better... they took a transfer running back from USC who could not get much playing time! ;-) UGA is going to be great. Cannot wait to see them play in Tempe
Sort of like you taking a quarterback from Arkansas who got benched in favor of Casey Dick. 
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Because it's our business who we play OOC...last year we benefited from the V. Tech game but I think that by and large, it is to our advantage to play a weak OOC schedule....that would also be true for most other teams, particularly those in the SEC.
Let me guess: Instead of seeing 2 more competitive games a year, you would rather play 4 OOC cupcakes just so you can have bragging rights on a message board filled with people you don't know?
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That's the reality of the situation my friend...USC played no top-15 teams this past year while LSU beat 5 top-15 teams....there's no comparison.
LOL. The reality of the situation is not only are you using opinionated, biased rankings again, but now you are saying "top 15". Not top 10 or top 25, but "top 15". LOL. How convenient when ASU finished 16th in the AP.
Why not use coaches poll, where ASU finished 13th and Florida 16th? Why not say USC played a 4 loss Oregon and LSU played a 4 loss Auburn? The only common opponent for Oregon and Auburn was USF. We know how those games turned out. So, even though data says otherwise, you think that that Auburn was better than Oregon because that's what the rankings say? Tennessee top 15? We know how their game with Cal turned out. Yet, you get on here and type the trash you type and actually believe it because it's what the rankings say?
Posters that post without bias and ones that use bias and rankings to support their debate.......there's no comparison.
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Since:Jan 9, 2007
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"I know it is more difficult to play in the cold. I am merely saying this is not the NFL. It is not Buffalo or Green Bay or Cleveland in NFL playoff games. Some folks would lead you to believe it was the Packer-Cowboy Ice Bowl every weekend."
-- Bigdawg... nobody is saying that it is the ice bowl. It's just the weather can have a pretty big impact on the game. Big Ten is accustomed to playing in both weathers and SEC is not. That is all that is being said. Take LSU and put them in that game in Ann Arbor and let's see what they would have done. We have already seen Big Ten teams play in "nice" weather and do well. I just want to see an SEC team have to play in the cold and see what results we get.
Peace.
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Good one Bigdawg... too bad that Mark Sanchez is the starting QB and Mitch is a back up. Wait until next year when we get the #1 ranked QB. We are going to be loaded for years to come my friend.
Peace.
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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Since:Nov 21, 2007
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But Ohio's in conf schedule is worse than that. So whats the point?
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LSU's Awesome OOC Schedule
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Since:Nov 21, 2007
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tOSU has two games this year. And will probably lose both of them. I just dont understand the logic.
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pckank --
"The reason I can't stand the "top 15 win" stat is because Auburn, Florida, and Tennessee were all questionable top 15 teams who all lost OOC games to teams outside the top 15. Look at this way:
LSU gets credit for beating "top 15" Florida, but OSU doesn't get a "top 15" win over Michigan. Same losses and Michigan beat Florida. Now, if you think for a minute that that's justifiable, I give up.
You can do the same thing for USF and Auburn. USF beat WVU and Auburn, lost 4 games, but finished way behind Auburn, who only beat Florida and Clemson, lost @ home to USF, and also lost 4 games. So, LSU gets a "top 15" win over an Auburn team whose 2nd best win was over Clemson in its bowl game, while a team like Oregon doesn't even get credit for a "ranked" win after they drilled USF.
Good luck trying to justify that also. Come on Knut. Aren't you better than playing the "top 15 win" game? Give me a break. What a meaningless stat. But, it is expected. When in doubt, SEC fans can always use rankings."
-- Great post. Don't forget to add that LSU beat these top teams at home and lost to Kentucky on the road and barely beat Auburn and Alabama on the road. I just do not get the justification of this at all. Like I said... the Pac 10 had 4 teams this year make it to the #2 spot. That is more impressive to me. In addition as you said.. we should get credit for beating a team that beat Auburn and Florida as well. Too funny. The other obvious thing is that LSU did not even play Georgia. It's like foreplay with no happy ending.
Peace.
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Since:Nov 21, 2006
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