powered by Google  
  Track your favorite teams and players.
Free membership, Register Now
Already a member, Log In
 


Community | Help
How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC Sports News
  Home   Fantasy     NFL  |  MLB  |  NBA  |  NHL  |  College FB  |  College BK  |  Golf  |  Racing  |  Tennis  |  Olympics  |  MMA  |  More CBS College | High School | Mobile | Shop  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Horses Home
 Live Racing
 Youbet Update
 Carryovers
 Free Selections
 Contests
 U. of BET
 Message Board
 
 
 
 
 Cycling Home
 Results
 Standings
 Stages
 Teams
 Riders
 Message Board
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Arena Football
 Boxing
 CBS College Sports
 CBS Sports TV
 College Baseball
 College Hockey
 Collegiate Nationals
 Horse Racing
 Message Board
 Poker
 Soccer
 SPiN
 Tour de France
 Video
 WNBA
 Women's Coll BK
 World Sports
 
 Site Index
 
 
 CBS College Sports
 Coll Sports Tonight
 Get CBS Coll Sports
 XXL - Watch Now
 Talent Bios
 Schedules
 School Sites
 
 
 Find your School
 '08 Football Preview
 Football Rankings
 Football Stats
 Hoops Recruiting
 Hoops Rankings
 Hoops Stats
 Video Highlights
 
 
 Featured Application
 Mobile Web
 Alerts
 Applications
 Video
 
 
 Home
 NFL
 NCAA
 MLB
 NBA
 NHL
 Fantasy
 
Community Home | My Profile | My Blog | Groups | My Settings | My Account | Member Search | Blog Search | About Community
 

How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC


View Message BoardViews:      


How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 21, 2006

May 7, 2008 5:59 pm

3)Tommy T....They have to deal with freakin' Bama every year yet Tommy T. has kept Auburn a contender most years even on the national level. He has very few lulls.

4)Mark Richt...I'm puzzled by Richt. I mean on one hand...Georgia is always pretty good...which is to his credit. Yet...it's freakin' Georgia and you would think he would have a plethora of BCS and title games with his talent pool. If the other boys can make it at LSU and Florida...and even Tenn to the Big Dance...then shouldn't Richt be able to do it too with Georgia? I don't know.

weegdog905,

I have no problem with your rankings.  In fact it probably is pretty much along the lines that I would have gone.

I just don't get this part that he would "have a plethora of BCS and title games with his talent pool" piece. 

Fact, USC beats UCLA in the last game like they were heavily favored to do, they, and not Florida goes to the 2006 BCS game.  Now, what mystical powers did Urban Meyer use to make this happen?  UGA in 2002 and Auburn in 2004 had equal or better record than the Gators.  In 2002, there were 2 unbeaten teams.  In 2004 there were 4.

Fact EITHER Missouri or West Virginia go to the BCS game if they win their last game.  WVU was heavily favored.  Did Les Miles scare the Mountaineers into submitting?  Did the Tigers put their best players on a plane to Morgantown after the SEC title game?

Was Pete Caroll and his Trojans somehow a failure in 2003 because a bunch of computers picked a 35-7 Big XII Championship game loser ahead of his team? 

Tuberville goes unbeaten....THE ONLY UNBEATEN SEC team since 98.  He doesn't get there.  His fault?  Forget the OOC.  He didn't because the two teams that started the season ranked 1 & 2 didn't lose.

Conference Championships, contrary to the current BCS are won on the field.  Since 2001 when Richt arrived in Athens he has 2 of those.  Only LSU has more.  Check the preseason ratings for UGA in those 7 years.  He has finished below excpectations twice and above 5 times.

Again, this is not about Richt and your ranking.  It is more about this perception that somehow the only way you can be considered successful is to have won it.  They said that about Tom Osborne for about 20 years before he won.  LOL


How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 28, 2006

May 7, 2008 6:11 pm
Could he have the same success with LSU, Florida and Georgia coaches have had with the same talent today? Absolutely.
Couldn't you say that about a lot of coaches? I'm not saying talent means everything, but it sure does make the coaches look better, doesn't it? There are plenty of coaches out there who know football and know the X's and O's.

Part of being a great coach is the ability to get great talent. Another part is coaching less talented kids "up". Another part is putting together a solid coaching staff, which helps with the first two parts I mentioned above. LSU, Florida, and Georgia have got great talent. Yes, they also coach kids "up".  There's a school in Blacksburg, Va. that has won 10+ games 4 years in a row with at most one "top 100" recruit a year. THAT is called coaching up. Yes, VT also gets its share of talented kids, even if they aren't  "5 star" recruits. At South Carolina, I don't think Spurrier and his staff have done a good job of getting talent or coaching kids up. Just my opinion. I don't expect everyone to agree with it.

How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 21, 2006

May 7, 2008 6:21 pm

pc,

Not sure I can fully agree with you on the Spurrier thang.  It does seem that perhaps he has lost a bit of the fire.  But he has a hell of a recruiting challenge there. 

First, his in-state rival has a far greater football tradition than the Gamecocks.  Right off the bat it is a strike against him especially considering the relative lack of talent in the state.  And before some South Carolina folks get upset, this is more due to population than lack of talent.

To his south, Mark Richt has essentially cut off Georgia's talent except for the occasional kid that is going somewhere else because of parents or a school with a great deal of tradition...ie. LSU, Alabama, Florida, Notre Dame, Clemson and Michigan.  Auburn and Georgia Tech get their fair share too.  But basically, Georgia gets who they want in the Peach State. 

That means to me that Spurrier either has to get players from North Carolina or maybe his Florida base.  It just doesn't seem to be happening.  I have no idea how hard he is working at it.  Carolina has very good football facilities.  And I still believe they have the most loyal and dillusional fans in the South.  These folks support that program like crazy through all the good and bad times and as you know there have been a lot more of the latter.


How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Feb 20, 2007

May 7, 2008 6:22 pm

I have to say that I'm just really impressed with all the people that posted their opinions on the SEC coaches and I wouldn't argue with a single one.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and there were some great responses.

I just wonder if we did this with another conference if it would get the same results and bring up the same amount of debate.  My guess is "Nope".

KNUT


How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 12, 2007

May 7, 2008 6:22 pm
 If my numbers are right, Bowden went 8-5-1 against Spurrier from 1990-2001.

Your right. I don't think that very bad looking back at those teams FSU was fielding @ the time. I've personally never seen a program go on a stretch run like what the Noles did during that period. 17 years straight of top 4 finishes? Incredible.

FSU had alot more talent according to recruiting classes (Florida had some good ones too, not great like Meyer's). Overrall coaching staff= FSU in a landslide.


How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 12, 2007

May 7, 2008 6:25 pm
At South Carolina, I don't think Spurrier and his staff have done a good job of getting talent or coaching kids up. Just my opinion. I don't expect everyone to agree with it.
I agree. At the same time Spurrier has been known to coach "up" some average players. Like I said. Lots of turnover with the coaching staff and the players Spurrier has brought in. Even his highly regarded recruiting class.

How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 12, 2007

May 7, 2008 6:28 pm
Spurrier should have taken the Bama job or the Miami job. All those speedsters in S. Florida................um................nah that would really make me feel like I've been stabbed in the back.

How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 18, 2008

May 7, 2008 6:38 pm

1. Spurrier     143-43-1     76%
2. Meyer     31-8     80%
3. Richt     72-19     79%
4. Saban     55-22     71%
5. Miles     34-6     85%
6. Fulmer     147-45     77%
7. Tuberville     105-53     67%
8. Petrino     0-0
9. Brooks     25-35     42%
10. Croom     17-30     36%
11. Nutt     75-48     61%
12. Johnson
    20-50     29%

So here are the records in no particular order with winning %.  Also keep in mind the Spurrier had a better record at Florida than at SC, Saban had a better record at LSU than at Bama, and Tuberville has a better record at Auburn than at Ole Miss.  If you look at current record at where these three coaches are at now, Spurrier is 21-16 (57%), Saban is 7-6 (54%), and Tuberville is 80-33 (71%).

Now I ask the question does your ranking change any?


How Do You Rate The Coaches Of The SEC
-
Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 18, 2008

May 7, 2008 6:41 pm
NOTE: These are records while coaching an SEC school not their overall record.<