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Okay these numbers should all tie out. I forgot to include the fine folks from Arkansas and the web site had some errors concerning Tennessee and Alabama losses being one short.
Big Ten VS SEC (1990 - 2007).
Mich 7-2, PSU 6-2, Minn 2-0, Iowa 2-1, MSU 1-1, Wisc 2-4, Ind 6-11, NW 0-1, ILL 0-1, Pur 0-2, OSU 0-7 Big Ten 26-32
Ala 2-3, Aub 3-3, Ark 0-3, Fla 3-4, Geo 5-0, Ken 10-7, LSU 3-1, Ole Miss 0-1, Mis St 0-0, Van 0-1, Ten 4-3, SC 2-0 SEC 32-26
Thanks again to patrickw for pointing out an error in my previous post.
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Funny, Dodd indicates that the Big Ten is so soft and that the SEC is so difficult and deep. Is that why the Big Ten and SEC are 9-9 against each other in bowl games over the last 5 years (and the Big Ten is actually 14-13 in head to head in the BCS era)? I'll give the SEC their due on beating OSU the last 2 years for the title, but not on overall depth being that superior. If the SEC is so deep, why did Michigan beat Florida despite turning the ball over 4 times? And why has a "second-rate" Big Ten team like Wisconsin gone 2-1 the last 3 years against SEC in their bowl games?
Care to explain this one, Gadawgs? Or is it Jethro?
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Nice stats, but why don't you try on the BCS era, when the Big Ten is 14-13 I believe against the SEC in bowl games? And 9-9 in the last 5 years?
Those speak better to current day non-domination by the SEC, despite what all the hillbillies keep screaming.
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Another Southern hick spouting off with opinion, not facts. Try this on for size, Zeke...
"Funny, Dodd indicates that the Big Ten is so soft and that the SEC is so difficult and deep. Is that why the Big Ten and SEC are 9-9 against each other in bowl games over the last 5 years (and the Big Ten is actually 14-13 in head to head in the BCS era)? I'll give the SEC their due on beating OSU the last 2 years for the title, but not on overall depth being that superior. If the SEC is so deep, why did Michigan beat Florida despite turning the ball over 4 times? And why has a "second-rate" Big Ten team like Wisconsin gone 2-1 the last 3 years against SEC in their bowl games?"
Care to explain that, Jethro?
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Wiscgc - you've got to give your team more love than this even when being sarcastic...
"And why has a "second-rate" Big Ten team like Wisconsin gone 2-1 the last 3 years against SEC in their bowl games?"
Wisconsin is not second rate, as you already know. Barry built a great program and their new coach has kept it going. Since 1998 the Badgers have gone 80-37, with sevarl bowl victories mixed in. So give your guys some love......
PS - I always hate when my Spartys have to play the Badgers you guys have had such great success against them in football and basketball. Save some of that for the SEC...
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Its not that I can't think for myself, it is that I am using his facts to show he is an idiot.
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Maybe not in comparison to the big east!
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All the SEC fans whose teams don't win the title find solace in the fact that they play in the "toughest conference". Its so hard!!WAAAAAAHHHH! They have to live vicariously through florida and lsu
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Who did you lose to at home last year? Big upset by a small undersized school. No conference championship to play and you played who in your conference. Ohio State did what to you? What did LSU do to Ohio State? Florida was a weak team that finished in the middle of the pack and your coach needed a win to save face. How many times did he beat Ohio State or win a bowl game. Please get a grip. Michigan I love I was just there and the car keys and the traditions are nice the people and their fans are great. You play no one all year and still cannot win the big game. I route for you all the time but play a top SEC team that is as rested as you are at the end of the year. You have one or two games a year and don't have anyone to beat you up every weak. Pray you find QB. All that talent and when was your last important game you won. Sorry but the old Michigan had the smash mouth football. Nothing lately!
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Georgia owns Wisconsin. Have you forgot the Outback bowls. When have you played in a conference championship game or a conference. Compare apples to apples please. Rested teams with time to heal in a weak conference who have two games all year have a great chance to beat lower beat up SEC teams. Ohio State who creams you every year is 0-9 against the SEC. Come play with the big boys and see how many rested players who stay healthy. Please!!!
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TOTALLY agree Gadawgs1... I've LOVE to see that. Can you imagine if we had some sort or exchange-student esque program in the NCAA where a team from the Big 10 and SEC swapped schedules and conferences... I'd let them switch with anyone, even a mid-to-low tier SEC team. It'd be more fun (no offense to East Div) to see them in the West, where it's 6 teams deep... Let's swap them with tOSU with Miss St., just for kicks... I figure with their present schedules, State'd go 6-6 and tOSU would go 11-1, but I wonder....
THE Ohio State University (Playing State's schedule)
- Aug. 30 @ La Tech, W 38-31... (actually having a viable offense makes this easy win, but humidity in Ruston is pretty tough...)
- Sept. 6 vs. SE Lousiana, W 51-20 (2-0, this southern football ain't so tough!)
- Sept. 13 vs. Auburn, L 24-17 (Sen'Derrick Marks hits Boeckman so hard, he pees self mid-way thru 1st QTR, Pryor fairs little better; 2-1)
- Sept 20 @ Ga Tech, W, 31-21 (Johnson's offense can't keep up w/ tOSU, 3-1)
- Sept 27 @ LSU, L, 41-10 (Ricky Jean-Francois makes Boeckman pee self again... separates Wells' shoulder in 3rd QTR - having to play in Tiger Stadium makes last year's BCS NC game seem like the horseshoe by comparison to tOSU, 3-2)
- Oct 11 vs. Vandy, W, 17-14 (banged up tOSU barely escapes w/ W against perennial cellar-dwellar - starting to seem like you NEVER get a week off in this conference, 4-2)
- Oct 18 @ Tennessee, L, 48-24 (Boeckman gets replaced midway through 2 QTR, noise in Knoxville rattles Pryor - 3 INT's, 1 ret for TD, 4-3)
- Oct 25 vs. Mid Tenn St., W 30-13 (hard fought game until 4th... still a much needed W, 5-3)
- Nov 1 vs. Kentucky, W 27-17 (Boeckman returns to form, tOSU gaining momentum, 6-3. Bowl Eligible... Whew!!!)
- Nov 15 @ Alabama, L 38-10 (Grant runs wild, 'Bama's white-hot and too much to handle at home... Apparently the week off wasn't enough tim to get ready, 6-4)
- Nov 22 vs. Arkansas, W 28-7 (Petrino has no answer for tOSU's tough D, Casey Dick's no Ryan Mallett, 7-4)
- Nov 28 @ Ole Miss, W, 33-32 (tOSU narrowly escapes Oxford on Thursday night... Rebels, prev 5-6 fighting to become bowl eligible, but can't stop Pryor and tOSU's spread offense in OT, 8-4)
- Bowl - UGA def's 'BAMA in SEC Championship, but UGA, UF, UT, BAMA, & LSU all get selected before 8-4 gets tOSU picked 5th in SEC to play in Liberty Bowl matchup w/ C-USA Champ, Southern Miss tOSU DRILLS USM 51-13, pundits wowed by strength and depth of SEC)
MISS ST (Playing THE Ohio State's schedule)
- Aug. 30th vs. Youngstown St., W 31-7 (Dixon, Elliott, and Ducre run wild... Carroll's lone INT results in TD, 1-0)
- Sept 6th vs. Ohio, W 41-0 (State's cheerleaders play entire 4th QTR, 2-0)
- Sept 13th @ Southern Cal, L 38-20 (State's puny offense can't keep up with loaded Trojans... Don't even make it close until late in game, 2-1)
- Sept 20th vs. Troy, W 27-0 (D clamps down, Croom grinds it out for 323 yds on the ground, 3-1)
- Sept 27th vs. Minnesota, W 34-3 (much easier game than last week... Cheerleaders play entire 2nd half, 4-1... WTF is Miss St doing in top 10???)
- Oct. 4th @ Wisconsin, L 24-17 (2 running teams play fastest game of the season... In the end, PJ Hill trumps Anthony Dixon, 4-2... state drops to 20th)
- Oct 11th vs. Purdue, W 17-14 (Defense totally shuts down Purdue, 1 of whose TD's is scored by D... Pegues returns INT for TD in 4QTR for W, 5-2, 18th)
- Oct 18th @ Mich St., W 23-10 (D continues to play lights out... Dixon's 2 rush TD pace Bulldogs, 6-2, 14th)
- Oct 25th vs. Penn St, W 17-12 (State's D limits Nittany Lions to 4 FG's, offense does just enough to not beat themselves..., 7-2, 12th)
- Nov 8th @ Northwestern, W 31-3 (NW makes VANDY look like USC... State's never had a breather like this for a conference game... Cute cheerleader now leads Big Ten in Passing Efficiency 8-2, 10th)
- Nov 15th @ Illinois W, 24-10 (Defense has Juice running for his life all day... No Mendenhall means no run threat, Illinois D tough, but turnovers kill Illini, 9-2, 7th... highest ranking for State, ever!!!)
- Nov 22nd vs. Michigan L, 24-0 (Bulldogs spoiled from reading about themselves in newspapers... Lay egg in Starkville, 9-3, drop to 16th... would've dropped further, but Hey! They're the No. 3 team in the Big 10)
- Bowls - State gets selected 3rd among Big 10 teams, gets spanked by Tennessee 41-3 in Outback Bowl... Pundits continue to lament what a weak, lame conference Big Ten has become... State still finishes in top 20 since 9-4 record by Big Ten team guarantees respect. Atlanta Falcons Scouts, wowed by Big Ten Pass. Eff. Leading cheerleader at the combine, select her 45th overall... winds up being a bust!)
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Larry Fitzgerald was the greatest college receiver of all-time. just felt it needed to be said.
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This was great and accurate! Thanks!
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What did Ohio State do to Michigan? What Is your record in conference championship games? What small school dominated Michigan on their home field(Applacian State). Your out of conference schedules are almost as weak as your defenses. I was at the outback bowl where your rested team played great until the second half. I would love to switch schedules with any of your big ten schools. To much cheese and brauts clog the veins in your head. If you do not get beat up during the year and you have weak competion it stands to reason you should win most of your bowl games. Your two best teams get to rest and not beat on each other for a conference championship and you save a loss and keep more people healthy. Florida was not playing for anything and Michigan was playing for their coaches honor who has lost to who every year. Yeah even a Jethro knows how bad the dominate team in the Big Ten every year looks like a high school team versus the SEC. Explain Ohio State 0-9 against the SEC. Just remember Michigan was not playing Georgia, LSU, Tenn, Auburn, or the other teams who also beat Florida last year and finished with better records. Michigan finished in probably the top of the pack in a very weak an overrated conference last year and every year. Ohio State plays Youngstown State, Akron, Kent State and gets great stats and has maybe Michigan and Wisc. as poor tests. If they lose to USC they still have very little chance of losing again. That is no parity top to bottom. When has Michigan and Wisconsin dominated Ohio State last? If you could give Georgia those wins and they had the records you top tier teams have against the rest of the Big Ten and we did not have to play against the other Champion in the SEC there would be an even a bigger gap in how badly you were dominated. You must be soaking your brauts in moonshine. Pray Georgia does not get through their hard conference and championship with one loss or none. Ohio State will see even a deeper and far quicker team with balance and depth. These guys love playing the grannies you call a schedule. Who has Wisconsin scheduled non-conference this year? I will pass the Jethro thing on to the team when i see them. I hope we see you again I enjoyed the wins in Tampa and I will enjoy the Big Ten having the same dominate teams ranked again. It is so fun laughing at the poor weak minded sports writers who love Ohio State.
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If they played the same schedule and conference games they do every year anyone can be ranked. You only have a few losses possible and the top two schools always dominate. No championship saves the rankings too. The point is what are the overall records the rest of the teams have against Michigan and Ohio State. The Big 12 has the same problem with Oklahoma and Texas having way lopsided records against their conference as well. They also get a lot of ranked team due to very favorable schedules. Parity is the key, not the same two teams being considered the only game every year. They predict records based on likely outcomes not competition. Georgia for example has lost to Florida 18 of the last 22 games they played. They do not dominate every year or hold lopsided over al lrecords against all the conference teams. That is what people need to look at and how many years regardless of who they graduate why they still have no chance of losing more than one or two games all year. It is very hard to get an undeafeated or one loss team out the S | |
