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May 12, 2008 1:22 pm
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Quarterback Josh McCown knows a lot of people already may have written him off.

He signed with the Dolphins as a free agent 10 weeks ago, but that has been almost forgotten with the arrival of rookie Chad Henne and his anticipated battle with second-year quarterback John Beck. Even family and friends have called to ask McCown if he remains in the team's plans.

"They say, 'Is it still wide-open?'" McCown said of the quarterback competition.

It certainly is in his view.

"As long as the guys in the building tell me it's an open competition, I could care less what fans or media say," McCown said after a long day of work at Dolphins camp. "From what I've been told and am experiencing at the facility, it's a three-man race."

All hope to become the long-term answer for a team that has started 12 quarterbacks since Dan Marino retired after the 1999 season.

McCown, who was drafted by Arizona in 2002 and bounced to Detroit in 2006, then to Oakland last year, believes he can be more than a stop-gap solution while Beck and Henne mature.

McCown, 28, has made 31 NFL starts, or 27 more than Beck, the No. 40 pick in 2007 who flopped in four starts.

"I have a lot of experience to help me," McCown said. "But it also will help the whole group. I want to play and be the starter, but if someone ends up in front of me, then he'll be pretty good."

His experience also has taught him how decisions are made in the NFL. He knows the Dolphins won't feel obligated to start Beck or Henne, because both were second-round picks.

"They're not financially invested to the point they can't make any one of us the long-term starter," McCown said.

That wasn't the case last season in Oakland, where McCown and veteran Daunte Culpepper started while a rookie with a $61 million contract learned the offense.

"No matter what I did in Oakland," McCown said, "JaMarcus Russell was going to be the starter this year."

That kind of frustration is nothing new for McCown.

In 2004 with Arizona, he was 6-7 as a starter, including a last-second, 24-23 victory at Dolphin Stadium.

The next season, coach Dennis Green replaced McCown with Kurt Warner, who started 0-3 with one TD pass before he was injured.

The next season in Detroit, McCown couldn't beat out veteran Jon Kitna. McCown, a gifted natural athlete at 6-feet-4, 215 pounds, didn't throw a pass for the Lions, although he caught two.

McCown conceded he had some trepidation as the April 26 draft approached. He was glad when the Dolphins chose offensive tackle Jake Long with the No. 1 pick rather than quarterback Matt Ryan, who went third to Atlanta.

"I came in here rolling the dice a little bit," said McCown, who was heartened when new coach Tony Sparano assured him he would have a real shot at the starting job.

"This is the last chance I'll get to compete like this," McCown said.

With that thought in mind, he has attacked the off-season like never before. He reported to work March 3, just three days after signing.

Since then, McCown hasn't missed a chance to work with quarterbacks coach David Lee, who was pivotal in the development of Dallas Cowboys Pro Bowler Tony Romo.

"I feel like I'm better than I've ever been at this time of year," McCown said. "I've gotten so much better."

McCown, who has never played on a winning NFL team, said he'll be a good teammate no matter how the quarterback competition develops.

"Selfishly, you want to play. Everyone wants to play," he said. "But I also want to win. If that means Dan coming out of retirement, Dan Marino, then I'll sit back and watch him. I don't want to lose anymore."


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May 12, 2008 1:30 pm
And the winner is..... Josh McCown!!!!

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May 12, 2008 1:36 pm

First off Delware your pic made me throw up in my mouth.

Josh will get that start, watch about week 10 or 11 Chad will be sent in to see what he can do and he will be the starter going forward.


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May 12, 2008 1:38 pm

For some reason I feel that Josh McCown and Chad Henne are leading the way in this situation, with Josh as the guy who will in the end turn out to be the starting QB for our Dolphins....

That would make Chad Henne as the back up, who might get the chance to play following our bye-week, by the time the second half of the season comes around, depending on the circumstances of where the team is at that point.

We have been reading good things about what the coaching staff thinks about John Beck, but it seems that the two favorites or Henne and McCown and that is to be expected because they are the two guys this new regime brought it.... Beck did the best he could and has shown some promise,but he was brought in by Cam Cameron, which makes him the odd man out in this situation.

In the end, all this competition can only make these guys better individually, and our team as a whole.


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May 12, 2008 4:03 pm
I feel the same exact way about the quarterback situation. Something is telling me that McCown and Henne are the frontrunners, which basically means McCown is the guy because we're not going to start a rookie.

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May 12, 2008 4:16 pm
I'm willing to bet that Parcells knows better than to judge a QB like Beck based on last years team. I just watched the highlights from the Bengals game again and I have to say, other than that one fumbled snap at shotgun, you can't really fault Beck for any of that game. On two plays he dropped back and had a defender on him immediately. Nobody can perform like that (ala Tom Brady in the super bowl).

The real expert is the QB coach in this situation. Realistically, nobody can say that the Dolphins took Henne to replace Beck. If they felt the need for the guy they wouldn't have passed him up at 32 for Merling and risked him being gone before they picked again. He fell into their laps. They took him because he has alot of value and potential.

And nobody can tell me that after being out performed by an undrafted rookie at the rookie camp that Henne is a front runner for anything.

The only thing close to a front runner, if there is one, is McCown based on experience only. Again, its not like he has been lighting it up all these years. He did have Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald to throw to in Arizona. If you're going to light it up, those are two perfect candidates to pad your stats with. He couldn't beat out Kitna in Detroit and he sure didn't do much last year.

In short. The Dolphins coaching staff has no obligations to any of these guys. There are no front runners.

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May 12, 2008 9:11 pm
2004 was the only year that McCown had significant playing time.
Larry Fitzgerald was a rookie Josh McCown's last year on the Cards.04'
Anquan Boldin only played 9 games in 04' when McCown started.
Dennis Green was a terrible coach, and constantly took away the best Lineman every year, along with many other decisions that Cardinal Fans will tell you weren't very smart.
Emmitt Smith was his Running Back. (so there was pretty much no Run Game then)

In 2005 he started 6 games and went 4-2.

The Lions was a team where John Kitna was a better QB. 

The Raiders was a team where they switched QBs every couple weeks for no apparent reason, and run by another terrible coach. There were no targets on the team.

I'm not saying McCcown is the Savior of the Dolphins... just that his past performances haven't been all bad, and you have to look at the situations he's been in on those teams.

I think he'll start the majority of the games this year... but he'll get benched with a few games left to see what Beck and Henne have to offer. If Henne or John Beck turn out to tbe the answer... McCown will be the back-up for some other team next year... If he proves to be a better option than either of the other guys, then he'll stay around and fight with Chad Henne, with John Beck either gone, or serving as a career backup.

Just my opinion on the QB situation.

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May 12, 2008 9:59 pm
I think the Dolphins are going to use Josh McCown when training camp breaks and use him for awhile. If he struggles you will see John Beck get a chance. I think Chad Henne will be the third QB so he learns the offense. I don't think we see him until maybe the last two games of the season but a great chance to start in 2009.