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SwarmMillen at it again. As the other posters have said, to call K2 a bust is ridiculous.
1,100 receiving yards and 5 TD's a bust? That's better than any player on the Lions last year, get real man. I know it's your opinion and you are probably bitter because your team sucks so bad, but I feel your pain the Browns were a bad team too for years but we are finally turning it around and sure enough, here come the haters!
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I don't think that Winslow deserves a new deal unless he makes it through the FULL season this year with the productivity he is definitely capable of doing. He is not a bust, injuries happen and people can come back from them. If he stays healthy, he will be the best receiving TE in the league, hands down. If he does nothing else in his career, then you can call him a bust. Usually you wouldn't call a guy a bust after coming off his best season where he finally played more than a handful of games. Let's hope Winslow gets wise, plays a good season, and then cashes in rightfully so next year.
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Swarm -
"With all the draft picks the Brownskins traded away this year for all that mediocre talent ..."
Mediocre talent?
Are you kidding me? Wait until the season until you make that judgment. You may be right, but I don't think so. Rogers looks much thinner than when he was with the Lions and Stallworth has been dynamite in camp so far. Williams is solid. I agree totally with Savage ... the Browns couldn't have come close to getting the talent in the draft that they got in trades and free agency. Keep the faith, these three guys will be key additions and far better than anybody the Browns could have gotten with the draft picks they gave up.
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Swarm -
"With all the draft picks the Brownskins traded away this year for all that mediocre talent ..."
Mediocre talent?
Are you kidding me? Wait until the season until you make that judgment. You may be right, but I don't think so. Rogers looks much thinner than when he was with the Lions and Stallworth has been dynamite in camp so far. Williams is solid. I agree totally with Savage ... the Browns couldn't have come close to getting the talent in the draft that they got in trades and free agency. Keep the faith, these three guys will be key additions and far better than anybody the Browns could have gotten with the draft picks they gave up.
Wait...you tell me to Wait until the season until you make that judgment then proceed to go on about why they aren't mediocre? So I should wait until the season plays itself out but it's cool for you to tell me why Shaun Rogers, a guy who has never *played* more than 4 games a year (leaning on the O line is not *playing*) is going to suddenly turn it around? You also say these three guys will be key additions and far better than anybody the Browns could have gotten with the draft picks they gave up.
That makes no sense. How could you even predict that let alone know it? If you mean they have more experience than rookies I give you that, but to say they are automatically "far better" than anyone the Browns could have drafted is a joke.
I get that you want to be excited about your team but that argument is hilarious. If that was the case then every year teams would just trade thier picks to teams for half -established middle of the road guys. Doesn't work that way. Didn't work for Washington and I don't see it working for Cleveland or the Jets this year.
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SwarmMillen at it again with his astute football knowledge ,this one might top your other idiotic posts , k2 has had some problems with staying healthy i will agree with that and has made some questionable decisions of and on the field early in his career ,that was mainly a lack of maturity which he has since corrected .to call this guy a bust just confirms my suspicions that you are an idiot .it is better for people to think that you are an idiot than to post and prove it .which you just did ,so hop back on your big wheel and go learn something if that is possible .
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SwarmMillen at it again with his astute football knowledge ,this one might top your other idiotic posts , k2 has had some problems with staying healthy i will agree with that and has made some questionable decisions of and on the field early in his career ,that was mainly a lack of maturity which he has since corrected .to call this guy a bust just confirms my suspicions that you are an idiot .it is better for people to think that you are an idiot than to post and prove it .which you just did ,so hop back on your big wheel and go learn something if that is possible .
Wow. Am I supposed to take you seriously with this? Here let me show you how you're supposed to write since your parents clearly never taught you anything.
SwarmMillen at it again with his astute football knowledge. This one might top your other idiotic posts. K2 has had some problems with staying healthy, I will agree with that. (He has also) made some questionable decisions of and on the field early in his career , but that was mainly a lack of maturity which he has since corrected (even though he is sitting out *right now*). To call this guy a bust just confirms my suspicions that you are an idiot. It is better for people to think that you are an idiot than to post and prove it, which you just did (to me, even though I can't even complete *one* full sentence without F'ing up). So hop back on your big wheel and go learn something if that is possible .
There you go bluezhound. They didn't teach you that when you got your GED. Thank me later pot head.
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Is Roy Williams sitting out on his team after wiping out on his motor cycle and collecting bank on the sidelines for the first two years of his career...?
As far as comparing stats let's take a little closer look at Roy's stats vs. KW's stats over the past 4 years, since you brought it up. Keep in mind The draft pick giving away Browns threw their 2nd round pick at the Lions to jump ahead one spot for a guy the Lions were never interested in in the first place...
Including the 2 games stunt man Kellen Winslow played in his first two years of his career, he has totaled 34 games, 176 catches for 2031 yards and an impressive grand total of 8 big TD's.
Roy on the other hand has played in 55 games, with 245 catches for 3652 yards and 28 TD's.
21 more games...69 more grabs...1621 more yards and most importantly, 20 more TD's.
All the while KW sits on the sidelines in Cleveland wanting a new deal.
And I'm the joke.
Move it along pal.
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And the most important stat, the wins 10-6 last year and the "LOINS" (misspelled correctly english major) that is right after Kitna guaranteed 10 wins they started off hot and ended up with a whopping 6 wins...LOL Roy is awesome and even if he made 120 catches a season the "LOINS" would still suck Matt Millen's sack...Get rid of Millen, get a chance.
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