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May 13, 2008 10:14 pm
My bad, the stats are actually on this thread, top of page 4.

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May 14, 2008 5:05 am
Come on you stupid Packers fans, don't you understand?  No Favre + Jarred Allen, Bernard Berrian, Jarred Allen, AP, Jarred Allen = Super Bowl, Come on!


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May 15, 2008 5:10 am

HAHAHAH are u serious hrdrv2--- 

Jackson Sucks and i know im gonna get alot of sh** for saying so -- yes Rodgers hasnt played much yet so hes unproven but what has Jackson done? you can throw all the stats out you want about Jackson Vikqeen fans ..but he still has 0 playoff appearance and has more Interceptions  than TD's ( referring to his career stats ) and has a 69.0 QB rating ( not impressive enough to say hes gonna lead the Vikqueens to the SB ). 

As far as the other fans saying we dont have an impressive Offensive Line and say that minnesota's line is better read the link hes ranking the top O - Lines in the NFC in 2007 ( a line that if healty is virtually the same with the additions of players via the NFL draft )  ....

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story;jsessionid=42761A6A8138699672F082391AA2C5A2?id=09000d5d8063fec4&template=with-video&confirm=true

and finally Bernard Berrian i cant belive you viking fans can even compare him to any WR  we have on our roster..u wanna compare his career stats as well as last year ....

Berrian - Career Stats : 150 rec  2,197 yds 13 TDS  ( 14.6 AV )

2007 stats  - 951 YDS  -- 5 TD's   13.4 av.

 

Driver - Career Stats :  503 rec   6,977 yds  38 td's  ( 13.9 av )

2007 stats-  82 rec  1,048 2 td  ( 12.8 av )

Jennings  - Career : 98 rec 1,552 yds 15 td's  ( 15.8 rating )

2007 sats - 53 rec   920 yds 12 td's  (  17.4 av  ) **** and that was only playing in 13 games  ( he missed the first two weeks with an injury )

Clearly any of the Packers WR would burn Minnesota's recievers out of the water.....you all act as if Berrian is the secont comming of your offense..he's only one of two  average player on your offense ( and im not talking about peterson ) .... Peterson will get many carries because the Vikings have nothing  on offense besides a great RB ( yes AP is an amazing back ) a mediocre QB and an average WR ( that The Bears didnt even want )

GB has the edge in Offense ---and as far as Defense...Im not convinced adding one player will suddenly change the Vikings defense ..they still needed to cover recievers ( and they didnt do that too well against GB last Year ) ...

 

 


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May 15, 2008 10:56 am

Respect, you can talk all the smack you want about Jackson, but Rodgers is a lot worse! He is more injury prone and he hasn't started a game yet. T-Jack was 8-4 as a starter last year. You had better pray Rodgers can suck that bad. T-Jack would have had a better record if he had receivers that could have held on to the ball. The Vikings receiver corp is not great, but they will be better this year than last year and all we need is a little bit of improvement in our passing game to have an improvement in our record. Our defense will be much improved with an actual pass rush and improved coverage. The Vikings management actually addressed some of our teams needs in the off season. What did GB do? Lost a HOF QB and nothing else. I can't wait for the Monday night game to see the beat down the Vikes put on the Pack.

BTL


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May 15, 2008 12:27 pm
O I know they are just ignorant. i try to see everyone point on things but alot of the time they are just flat out wrong..like the guy who started this post................... i went on a packer board and before and after this post he has been talking chit so on one of them i called him a "damn lyin fool" ... i hate people like that.

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May 15, 2008 5:28 pm

As far as the other fans saying we dont have an impressive Offensive Line and say that minnesota's line is better read the link hes ranking the top O - Lines in the NFC in 2007 ( a line that if healty is virtually the same with the additions of players via the NFL draft )  ....

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story;jsessionid=42761A6A8138699672F082391AA2C5A2?id=09000d5d8063fec4&template=with-video&confirm=true

You are kidding right!  This is an article written by a fantasy football writer, and a terrible one at that.  And his ranking system is based on a baseball type rottisserie scoring system, that has been modified to rank the NFL o-lines.  If you want to believe that the Packers have a better o-line than the Vikings based on this clowns work, go for it!  I'm sure it makes you feel better, and sleep better at night!

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May 15, 2008 5:51 pm
Clearly any of the Packers WR would burn Minnesota's recievers out of the water.....

Donald Driver is the only clear advantage the Packers WR group has over the Vikings WR's.  And he is getting older.  The rest of the Packers WR's ARE NOT CLEARLY better;

2007-2008:

Bernard Berrian  122-1726-11    Greg Jennings   98-1552-15

2008:

Bobby Wade  54-647-3     James Jones  47-676-2

Sidney Rice  31-395-4     Ruvell Martin  16-242-4

Andre Allison  8-122-0     Jordy Nelson  0-0-0

Like I said, Driver is a stud, but beyond him I certianly don't see this clear advantage the Packers have.

 


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May 15, 2008 6:52 pm

BIGHAWK.... The Vikings offensive line gave up a total of 38 sacks --- Green Bay only 19 ---- although your team was better in Rushing Minnesota also wasnt mixing around there offensive Lineman  due to injuries ( Which included Clifton and Tauscher )    ... if gb is healty we can have one of the best offensive lines in the league...... and They have other recievers besides Driver...Jennings could have a breakout season and they drafted another WR Jordy Nelson ( and i didnt even mention James Jones ) ....... The Vikings Passing Offense ( like i exsplained to BTLSFAN ) was terrible in 07 and adding Berriman an average WR who hasnt proved hes a #1 reciever  ( which is why chicago got rid of him - )

Driver , Jennings and Jones - Combined 2,644 yards and 19 td...

Berrian, Rice and Wade - 1,994 Yards 12 tds...

 

BTLSFAN -- Jackson hasnt dont sh** and are u kidding me...injured proned..look at TJACK He only Played in 12 games last year ...12... he didnt play due to an injury ( he hurt his knee ) --- he was benched his rookie season ..then in 2007 he threw costly interceptions which caused Minnesota to have the secont worst passing offense in the League. -- as far as rodgers injuries..his first injury was a stupid fluke accident vs New England...after that he hasnt been injured so how the hell is he injured proned ?  And as far as addressing there needs --ITS CALLED THE NFL DRAFT....the Packers drafted several needs included TE, CB , And WR...mabey you should've actaully watched it and payed attention.... getting one Average WR ( that even chicago didnt want ) and a Defensive player doenst make up for the Lack of Offense your team DOESN'T HAVE  ( with the exception of Peterson who's there only threat )

I cant wait untill MNF Too when  GB pounds Minnesota


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May 15, 2008 8:58 pm
Minnesota also wasnt mixing around there offensive Lineman  due to injuries ( Which included Clifton and Tauscher )    ... if gb is healty we can have one of the best offensive lines in the league......

Thats part of the problem, if they can stay healthy and if they don't have to keep switching people around!  And don't you think having an experienced QB like Brett Favre also helped the line limit its sacks?  Aaron Rodgers played a half and was sacked 3 times.

They have other recievers besides Driver...Jennings could have a breakout season and they drafted another WR Jordy Nelson ( and i didnt even mention James Jones )

Did you even read my post, I GAVE you Driver ,but the rest all compare rather favorably.  Berrian has put up better numbers than Jennings the last two years, catching balls from Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton.  Jennings put up less numbers than Bernard Berrian and he was in an offense with Donald Driver on the other side and Brett Favre throwing.  But being a Packer I guess Greg Jennings is the only one of the 2 who can have a break out year.  And Jennings still has to prove he can stay healthy.  I did mention James Jones,  and again Bobby Wade had better numbers.  And can you tell me how many games has Jordy Nelson played, how many has he started, how many passes has he caught in the NFL, has he ever even set foot on an NFL field?

adding Berriman an average WR who hasnt proved hes a #1 recieverCould you tell me who the Bears #1 reciever was the last two years?  Certianly not the 40 year old Mushin Muhhamid .  And since you think Berrian is average, what does that make Jennings.  Being Berrian put up better numbers the last two years in a way worse situation;  then Jennings at best is below average, without Favre he may turn out to just plain suck!  

 


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May 15, 2008 9:04 pm
i cant belive we are actually arguing who has better recivers. look at the stats u put up our 3rd string the guy who is supposed to get like 30 rec in a year has more yards then all but one of your recivers. and Greg Jennings is on a whole other level  then Berrian is. with less receptions less games Jennings still had more TDs . Hell Jennigs wasnt to far off from the Pro Bowl. and on the ther hand berrian got ran out by Devin Hester. a guy who barly did any thing to run him out. face it you guys picked up a avrage WR at Best. and he still has no QB to throw to him so i dinot see what will be any diffrent

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May 15, 2008 9:13 pm

really in less Receptions Jones had more reciving yards. Wade only beat Jones by 1 TD thats no that much. looks like jones is pretty even with wade if not better. by the way its really sad that you have to compair your number 1 WR last year to our number 3.

Berrian came from a situation where no WRs where there. so of corse he will look like a #1 guy in Minn because there is noWR to compeat. and you compleatly contridicted youself saying jennings had less games that just mean Jennings can put up more Tds then Berrian in less games. a

nd last the Packers gave up far less sacks the the vikes with some of our best OL out now yes Favre was some of the reason but not all of it most of it was just that the Packers are a better pass blocking team


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May 15, 2008 9:17 pm

All your stats were of course with master Farve at the helm.  Do you really think Rodgers won't cause a drop off in the pass game?  Yeah right.  Farve MADE your receivers highly productive, duh.  We'll see later this year where Rodgers is at, get ready to cry in your beer though. 

Pound Minnesota?  WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  With Rodgers?  WAHAHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!  YOU GOT ME CRYING IN MY BEER BUT IT'S FROM LAUGHTER  !!! 

Can't wait until week one!!! 


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May 15, 2008 9:32 pm

in 2005 this is with out Jennings and Jones. and all of it on driver. favre threw a 29 Ints and onlt 20 Tds with a 70 QB rating. with the adition of Jones and Jennings in 2007 favre had a woohping 95 Qb rating 28 Tds and only 15 ints. that proves that are Wrs are playmakers.

also the Packers lead the leauge in yards after catch with also proves that our Wrs are just out right good


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