There are too many threads covering this topic.  Let's see if we can have one thread that covers this topic.  While I expect heated discussion/debate, let's try to keep emotions to a minimum and try to represent our cause(s) as best we can.

I will most likely represent both sides at times, if the thread lives long enough.  I may be everyone's best friend and worst enemy at different times, but that is what we are here to discuss.

Please keep hate to a minimum, and debate at its best.

P1: "It must have a 'natural' cause."

P2: "It must have a 'supernatural' cause."

Let these two arses be set to grind corn.**

- Frater Perdurabo, O.T.O., "Chinese Music", The Book of Lies

** The author took certain liberties concerning the term "arses" from the original text in order to fit the existing, while absurd, TOS regulations of an unnamed website.

As usual, please print and burn this page before reading the next one.

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ou state. Natural cause. What kind of natural cause do you wish?

Supernatural= Afterlife. This debate of religion vs. other has been going on for year's. Just because you can not see it does not mean it does not exist. Just because it happened 2,000 years ago does not mean it did not happen or Christ never came to Earth. If God does not exist why then does

 Christianity still exist after 2,000 years?  People say they earth is much older then the bible states. Well how do you know that for a fact, or God's seven days could have been alot longer then what they say. Just because people do not see something they want some kind of answer that fits what they see. So they make things up or they try to say well this could not have happen cause............. Well some thing do not need answers to. They are finding to much proof these things did happen as they are said in the bible. And by the way if people really cared about the word ass they will see it is what people call donkeys.

OK, good points, from what I could decipher.