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SEC is top.....not top to bottom better in 08
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SEC is top.....not top to bottom better in 08
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NO kidding BIGatorEJ. This is a shot at the SEC and just coincidentally its an OSU fan... GO FIGURE!!!! Then when you point out the obvious they take cheap shots off the subject of football.
Justify your remarks, LowMan. There is no way that post was a shot at the SEC. Why do you feel the need to defend the SEC so much? For crying out loud! The title of the thread is "SEC is top!" You make no sense and your posts are weak. You shouldn't come running into threads blaming OSU fans for some made up crap and then not justify what you are saying. Its pathetic.
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SEC is top.....not top to bottom better in 08
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Tradition - Again the most tradition? I think Michigan and Notre Dame would have something to say about that.
When I say tradition....I'm talking about collectively as a conference. Again people are trying to throw out random teams from different conferences. Notre Dame is an Independent, not even affiliated with a conference.
While Michigan and Ohio State represent some of the finest traditions in america (perhaps the finest), those two teams are the ONLY teams that come to mind when one speaks of Big Ten tradition.
Coaches - That is also up for debate and has been in several threads. For example; Les Miles some people feel he is genius and others feel he too much of a risk taker. Coach is where the heart is.Hmmm...Lets see...Phil Fulmer, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, Bobby Petrino, Houston Nutt, Nick Saban, Les Miles, Tommy Tubberville, Sylvester Croom (YES the SEC has a black coach!)....
Facilities - No school in the SEC tops U of O in facilities. If you would like to change the phrase to stadium capacity then fine go ahead and do that.Again, collectively as a conference....compared to other conferences....the SEC's facilities are better.
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Stafford is overrated, and who are their recievers? People question Boeckman's play, but so far he's a better qb than stafford. The star of Georgia's team is Moreno, yet OSU has a better running back who doesn't get near the pub as Moreno.
Here is the deal. I do believe Stafford's play has been influenced greatly by the emergence of Moreno, he has one of the strongest arms in the Nation, but I still question (slightly) his ability to stand in the pocket and breakdown defenses if his running game is a non-factor.
UGA does have great recievers though...Massaquoi is a future NFL great.
The reason I think UGA would stomp OSU is the same reason I thought LSU would've in last years title game. UGA's defense will lockdown the OSU wr's, the UGA front 7 will contain Wells, and any potential mobility from Boeckman, and Moreno combined with the continuous play action from stafford will just demoralize the OSU defense....but then again I thought Florida would beat Michigan...
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If an 8 game schedule in a 12 team conference is a flaw, then 3 of the BIG 6 conference schedules are flawed. Does that mean an 8 game schedule in a 10 and 11 team conference is flawed as well?
Of course it is. How can it not be? .... Not saying change the other conferences, just let me know if you really think the split is better than what the Pac is doing.
1st things first: define "better"
- Is the PAC 10's scheduling "better" in terms of defining a champion since all teams play one-another while 12-team conferences don't? - YES
- Is the PAC 10's method "better" in terms of making it easier for the Conference Champ to go undefeated? - YES - because there is NO chance that the conf champ has to play the 2nd (or 3rd) best conf team twice like a 12-team conf champ could (OU vs. Mizzou last year)
Here is Sagarin's rankings for you from 2006 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm) notice SOS ...
tell you what: you show me how Sagarin determined those rankings and then people can debate whether or not they are valid...but if you are going to try to legitimize SOS by using a formula that nobody can verify (called the Scientific Method...I hear it's all the rage) then I call B.S. and will instead use the NCAA's SOS rankings instead...2006 SOS comparison:
..........School............................Sagarin SOS........................NCAA SOS
- Stanford.........................1.........................................13
- So Cal............................2..........................................7
- Arizona...........................3..........................................8
- Tenn...............................4.........................................10
- Washington..................5..........................................29
- Oregon...........................6.........................................17
- UCLA..............................7.........................................21
- UF...................................8...........................................1
- California.......................9.........................................31
- Wash St.........................10.......................................53
- ASU.................................11......................................42
- UK...................................13.......................................4
- Oregon St......................15.......................................14
- S.Carolina.....................16........................................4
- MSU................................17........................................23
- LSU................................20.........................................12
- Ole Miss........................21........................................36
- Auburn...........................23........................................27
- UGA................................24........................................35
- Arkansas.......................26........................................9
- Alabama........................30........................................69
- Vandy.............................39.........................................55
that gives us:.................................................SEC..................PAC 10
- avg Sagarin ranking: .................... 21.33................. 6.9
- avg NCAA ranking: ........................ 23.75................ 23.5
odd that the NCAA's and Sagarin's rankings are close for the SEC but the PAC 10 falls way down in the NCAA's rankings isn't it?
Interesting... I will let you do the math. Why do you think the difference?
riddle me this: how can I do the math if I don't know how Sagarin calculated his formula?
the NCAA's formula is pretty straight-forward : opponent's records
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Bigdawgs that makes me the "Elder Statesman" of this thread. Please show me the respect I so rightly have earned (simply by surviving)
NCbulldog....
Here's some advice for you youngsters "never trust a fart after you're 40" words to live by.
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but you really wouldn't trade Moreno for Beanie Wells?
Nah, couldn't do it. Not to say Wells isn't great but Moreno is a fire starter--as in he ignites the whole stadium. When he is in he hypes up the team and the crowd. Again, not to say that Wells isn't, but Georgia wouldn't have made the run they did last year without Moreno's energy.
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damn, twodawgs, a little misinterpretation on your part.... you think? Nonetheless, I said "wisdom" is gained through time, not respect, respect is earned.
hey....who pissed in my cheerios? (just to be obvious here, "WINK!")
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I don't know about the rest of you but I'm feed up with all these comparisons about what 'conference' is better!! You can say all you want but the FACTS don't lie!! 2 questions is all I have for you. 1)What conference has won the last 2 national titles and 2)What was the SEC's bowl record compared to your Big Nothing's conference?
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OSU, us old guys think the same things as you 22 year olds. The wisdom part is we don't write down or say everything we think. We may think the SEC is supreme somedays based on last years 7-2 bowl record but we've seen enough football to know we could 2-7 next year and thats a lot of crow to eat.
As far as Beanie over Wells. I think Wells is built for OSU but given the choice I'd keep Mareno.
Not from a pure athletic standpoint but if anyone was at the Auburn-Ga game when Mareno stood on the bench and did the Solja Boy (sp?) it was the most exciting football game I've ever been too. The kid
can light up a crowd like no athlete I've seen in person. He is pure energy. Our coach is a quiet leader type and we needed someone extroverted like Mareno to excite the fans and team.
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OSU, us old guys think the same things as you 22 year olds. The wisdom part is we don't write down or say everything we think. We may think the SEC is supreme somedays based on last years 7-2 bowl record but we've seen enough football to know we could 2-7 next year and thats a lot of crow to eat.
As far as Beanie over Wells. I think Wells is built for OSU but given the choice I'd keep Mareno.
Not from a pure athletic standpoint but if anyone was at the Auburn-Ga game when Mareno stood on the bench and did the Solja Boy (sp?) it was the most exciting football game I've ever been too. The kid
can light up a crowd like no athlete I've seen in person. He is pure energy. Our coach is a quiet leader type and we needed someone extroverted like Mareno to excite the fans and team.
Now this is an excellent post. Balanced. Fair. Just a bit of hometown zeal. I love it!
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Thanks apollo but I made one mistake I said "As far as Beanie over Wells", it should say As far as Mareno over Wells".
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The SEC has the best programs, facilities, players, coaches, and I dare say tradition.
That is a bold statement.
You forget to add fans, finances and trophy cases.
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osufanatic,
We were 22 once too. LOL. In fact I was in grad school in Dayton at Wright State.
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Bigdawgs that makes me the "Elder Statesman" of this thread. Please show me | |
