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1) 0-4 against tOSU.
Look at the history of the rivalry. Teams have gone on streaks before. Michigan is still 16 games over .500 against OSU. Just look at the last decade where Michigan went 7-2-1 against OSU.
2) Coach fired.
While this may be the reality of it, he still technically retired.
3) New Coach has $4M lawsuit against him from Previous school.
That is between RR and WVU. It has nothing to do with Michigan.
4) Lost #1 Natl recruit to tOSU in huge recruiting battle.
I dont believe Michiagn was ever really in the battle. Pryor wasnt even mentioned in AA until mid January when Mallett left. Before that point Michigan as set at QB.
5) Lost to a D1AA team at home.
Embarassing loss and I believe its the single reason English wasnt offered the HC job. He proved he was completely inept at DC, how do you think he is going to be at HC?
6) Players leaving program citing lack of values.
This doesnt suprise me at all. I have never been a fan of RR and I most likely never will be. Something about him has always said "win at all costs" to me.
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Reputation:94
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Not sure why u were trying to justify the reasons, but fact is there are 6 solid reasons when call combined are proof that Michigan football is at rock bottom in its esteemed history.
1) Again, my point this is the worst Michigan streak ever, not comparing whose got the longer streaks.
2) Coach fired due to poor perf
3) Youve hired a coach who is an embarrassment to your school.
4) LMAO. Rigghhhhtt......RR bet the farm on getting him to run spread next 4 yrs
5) Again, my point one of the 6 reasons on why low point for Michigan football
6) Happens at all schools from time to time.
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Reputation:99
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Since:Aug 17, 2006
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1. 0-4 against OSU. You sound like an SEC fan. One in particular. Picking an arbitrary year to start comparing wins and losses. I can say Michigan is 0-0 against OSU as of right now. Doesn't make it false. Doesn't make it any less stupid than picking any other year.
2. Carr wasn't fired. He called it quits. The AD mentioned prodding him to come back for one more year after LAST season. I don't know how it goes in fast food, but there's a difference between firing and retiring in most professions.
3. Rich Rodriguez is an idiot. I can't help that. But his buyout doesn't really have much to do with Michigan being in shambles any more than it has to do with Rich and family probably having to eat a few more meals @ Taco Bell instead of Outback if he has to pay it all.
4. Whoop dee do on Pryor. He's one kid. You were probably the guy hyping Felipe Lopez and putting him on the cover of SI some 12 years ago. If you think one guy is gonna change a program, you're delusional. Like I said, LSU once lost all everything QB Brock Berlin outta their own backyard to Florida. Looks like they ended up doing okay.
5. It's one loss. Non Michigan fans overdramatize it more than actual ones do. I can't remember one particular loss sending a program into the doldrums. If you'd have told me we'd beat ASU and lose to Florida to end the season or I could take losing to ASU and beating Florida to end the year...I'd just keep it the way it is.
6. Players transfer all the time after a new coach comes in. Read a little more and you'll realize that Boren's bro basically was dropped off of the recruiting list when Rodriguez was hired. That factored a lot into his decision too. When you start giving kids scholarships just based on their last name? Those are values I can do without.
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Reputation:99
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Since:Dec 28, 2007
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BTodd..
The Boren hit was bad, just for the way he left. UofM fans did not hate on Ryan Mundy when he bolted for WVU, but he did it with class. Carefull with what you got in Boren he still has to sit out a year.
Pryor was not even considering UofM before Rich Rod got their. The fact pryor thought about UofM is a credit to Rich Rod. The recruiting thing is overblown to begin with, remember Ron Powlus, the Domers savior. How about Kendra spurned JoePa and went on to FSU and became a fullback.
OSU has had the upper hand congrats... Just like Carr had Coopers number, times change. You got scoreboard Im not going to try and blow it off. You call it Vest 3 RR0 I'll give you 1-0-1.
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Since:Oct 15, 2006
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BT45
I don't get it. You make fun of all the crazy SEC fans that keep bragging about conference supremacy, but then you turn around and do the same thing to Michigan fans.
You seem to get tired of the SEC> Big 10 debate, but can't seem to get enough of the OSU> Michigan debate. Just curious if you saw any connection.
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Reputation:96
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Since:Sep 11, 2006
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The Boren hit was bad, just for the way he left. UofM fans did not hate on Ryan Mundy when he bolted for WVU, but he did it with class. Carefull with what you got in Boren he still has to sit out a year.
Ryan Mundy wanted a master's degree in sports administration, which UM didn't offer, that was why he transfered.
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Since:Dec 30, 2006
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Michigan just got a committment from McNeal out of Minnesota who was ranked higher than Jackson by Rivals.com
I guess that makes it RR 2, Vest 1
DOH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reputation:94
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Since:Sep 1, 2006
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I am saying based on those 6pts Ive listed that Michigan football is in THE LOWEST POINT of its 100+ yr history. You can debate these points or not or not.
However, if you losers disagree w me I challenge you to tell me what yrs then are a lower point for Michigan football than current 2005-2008+.
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Reputation:96
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Since:Sep 11, 2006
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All you're doing is showing how great a program UM has, if that's the worse in their history.
It's still better than a lot of other D-1 programs.
I am saying based on those 6pts Ive listed that Michigan football is in THE LOWEST POINT of its 100+ yr history. You can debate these points or not or not.
However, if you losers disagree w me I challenge you to tell me what yrs then are a lower point for Michigan football than current 2005-2008+.
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