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May 17, 2008 7:53 am

If it goes unbeaten?

Looking back, Here are the ones I can remember;

Tulane in 1998, Utah in 2004, Boise St in 2006, and Hawaii in 2007.  Of these, Utah had the best OOC opponents with Texas A&M, North Carolina, and Arizona St.  They also won all of their games by at least 14 points.  In my mind, they certainly didnt schedule their way into a BCS game.

The revised BCS schedule allows for easier access for Non-BCS schools, but the BCS formula remains essentially the same, wins/losses, strength of schedule, computers, opinion polls.  So, really, you still have to beat everyone on the field and convince people that you are a Top team.  Utah failed to convince enough people.  Then they went out and won their BCS game by 28 points.

Now for the best test case yet, (and no I'm not predicting this, just speculating in order to make a point), 

East Carolina-If ECU went unbeaten in its conference, considering the fact that  it has a conference champ game-most would consider that as good or better than Utah winning its conference in 2004. 

Here's where it gets interesting.  In nonconference, in order to finish unbeaten, ECU would have to beat West Virginia, Va Tech, and NC State and Virginia on the road.  That would most certainly be MUCH better than what Utah did, WVU and VT are Top 20 teams and both won their BCS conferences last year.

So, I ask again...Can a non-BCS school make the NC game if it goes unbeaten?


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May 17, 2008 7:59 am

Again, not predicting.  I just think its interesting that we've had at leat 4 non-BCS teams go unbeaten in the last 10 years so its likely to continue.


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May 17, 2008 8:13 am
For a non-BCS school (besides Notre Dame) to make the BCS NC game they would need to be undefeated (obviously) with a terrific OOC schedule, and a large margin of victory over all of their inconference opponents. Then they could probably get in if there was only one undefeated team from a BCS conference or no undefeated teams from the BCS conferences.They'd also need a pretty good pre-season ranking.

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May 17, 2008 8:20 am

So, I ask again...Can a non-BCS school make the NC game if it goes unbeaten?

Yes.

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May 17, 2008 8:28 am
Yes.

stupid pinkie.

Anyhoo, yes the non-BCS schools can take heart in the fact that if they run the table they will be in a BCS bowl again this year.

Fine. Why aren't we pushing it a step further and asking whether or not a non-BCS team will be allowed to play for the Nat Championship if they go undefeated ? Why not? Well, that is of course , if there is no SEC team with more than 3 losses available.

Playoff time approaches.....


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May 17, 2008 8:37 am
Yes they can, they have to have an amazing OOC like ECU has this year and they have to go unbeaten. They also can't be in a tie with a BCS team to get in like 2004 where there were tons of good teams. Boise in 2006 shouldn't have gotten in over Florida or OSU and Hawaii this year just had an awefull schedule or they would have gotten in.

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May 17, 2008 8:53 am

I agree with much of what has already been said.  But the whole system is still based on the outdated old style of letting the national champion be decided on an off the field method.  The BCS system is set up against the lower level conferences from the start. 

I am an educated person, but no one has ever been able to explain to me why the system of a playoff is NOT good for Division I football, while it IS good for every other sport known to college athletics.


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May 17, 2008 9:09 am

Here's one way to look at it.

Everybody criticized Memphis's conference in basketball this year but since Memphis had some very tough non-conference opponents, they were highly ranked all year.  Still many of the power conference fans looked down on them because of their conference affiliation and lo, and behold, at the end of a tournament, we found out that Memphis was one of the best teams in the country.

In football, many of those power conference fans have a vote.


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May 17, 2008 9:54 am

yes it can. But I think it will take 3 years

for example let me use lets say bowling green. now bowling green is not going to be ranked in any preseason top 25 so the first season they go undefeated  and finish the year in the top 10. Now probably next year people won't have them in the preseason top 25 so they have to go undefeated and probably finish in the top 25. Now in the third and final year poeple will probably have them in the top 25 in preseason polls so they have to gu undedeated again and if their is only one team or no teams with no lossess than I do think finally bowling green ( any mid major team) will be in the nc game


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May 17,