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I like Villanova, they are one of my teams, but I would say that unless they win the Big East Tourney, I don't think they should go to the Big Dance.
I think there needs to be a bar, and doing better than .500 in your own conference should be a minimum. The big east is good this year, and you might be able to make an argument that the 16th team in the Big East is better than the number 1 team in the Sun. But it doesn't matter. Doing better than average in your conference has to be required. All of the conferences (basically) are competitive within themselves, so having a great record in your league is a real accomplishment, and I think that should be a difference maker in the selections.
Villanova is good enough to do that, but when they had their chances they didn't do enough this year to make it happen.
Now if they win their tourney, then they belong.
I think they can, but if they don't?
Well then it seems like they wouldn't make too much noise in the NCAAs.
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I think they need to win 2 more games, I don't know that they need to win the whole thing. Beating Syracuse, G-town and one other should be enough. Good luck to them.
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Actually, I think that they still have a slight chance if they lose to Georgetown in a close game. But a win against Georgetown and they will likely be in. I disagree with the two posts before this. A win over Georgetown and the committee will probably include Nova in the dance. I am a huge Villanova fan and alum, so I will admit some bias, but the team is deserving. They were a top 25 team before a midseason losing streak and they have regained their form down the stretch. I'd love to see them in the big dance again this year.....
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Oh, and for the record, with that convincing of a win, Nova is dancing! Trust me. SOS/RPI will go up. NC State/G'Town BS loses will be factored. Losing Drummand/Clark for most of season (including 5 game losing streak) will be factored. Actually watching them will establish they deserve to be in -- and will be!
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So, according to your rules, who is actually the better team is not relevant. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. You are obviously a fan of a team that can get a .500 conference record simply by showing up. C'mon, if you going to say Nova is out for valid reasons, so be it. But, saying they are out based upon a pre-determined rule regardless of its relevance that year is just dumb.
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Well let's talk arbitrary numbers.
64 teams, that is arbitrary... it's also the way it is.
Arbitrary happens all the time... don't get all weepy about it. :)
This is an opinion, I don't think any team in any league in any sport should get into any playoff system without doing better than .500 in regular season play. Now, that is my opinion. Does it matter that the last team in the Big East is probably better than than the best team in some other league? Not really, not to me at least. it is a reason to be proud, but if you can't be in the top of your league then you shouldn't get rewarded. That doesn't seem arbitrary to me at all. That's why they play the league schedule instead of just pronouncing themselves champions during the preseason.
My larger point is this. The big east has a tournament, they chose to arbitrarily limit their tournament to less than the entire conference. I see no reason why the NCAAs shouldn't cap league entries by requiring < .500 league average.
After it's all said and done, I said it before, and I'll say it again. I like Villanova, I live in DC and I have fond memories of watching GTown and Villanova play each other growing up.
I always rooted for Villanova, still do. But I think they should have done better this season, and if they get in this year i would not be surprised. but personally, I'd rather see a team with a really good conference record go to the big dance.
No matter their SoS or RPI. Just my arbitrary opinion though.
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If they beat top seeded Georgetown tomorrow, then there's no issue - they're in. They're definitely on the bubble at best if they lose tomorrow. Go Cats!
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yeah if they win tomorrow they are in i think.
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They're definitely in if they beat Georgetown and they still might squeeze in even if they just play Georgetown close...depending on how many upsets there are in conference tourneys around the country. By blowing out Syracuse in a game that the Orange needed, Nova proved that they belong in the NCAA tourney.
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I disagree gconrads- Now with this win they are above .500 in one of the best conferences, top to bottom, in the nation. Dont say the ACC just b/c they have Duke and UNC. (Id say the Pac 10 and Big 12 are ahead of the Big East). Were talking about top to bottom. The big east beat other major conferences when they played them this year and most of losses amongst big east teams came within the conference games. Therefore just b/c their around .500 doesnt make them bad.
If Nova beats G-town I will say its a lock their in. Nova and Cuse were on the bubble and no other teams in the big east, now the #10-#12 seeds need to win it all in the Big East tourney to get in but not Nova.
G-town is top 10 and #1 in the Big East (which we all know everyone loves in this country). I think they will still be on the bubble if they lose a close game. Now if they get killed tomorrow I will worry and probably say that they won't get in. But this team got screwed on 2 calls this year in the last .3 seconds and .1 seconds on very questionable calls, where writers and reporters all over sports shows and papers were calling awful calls that should have never been called. Losing on Free throws to G-town was killer and if they beat them tomorrow it shows this team can hang w/ the best of them.
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This might be one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen. Nova has to win the Big East tourney to deserve to be in?
Were you high when you made that post?
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I forgot to add something on my rant haha. We're also talking about a team (yes maybe they shouldnt have been preranked top 25 in the early season) that was in the top 25 for about 60% of the season, and missed their starting sophomore center and starting junior small forward for about 75% of the season. And have overcome these two big injuries to be in the hunt and part of the bubble talk. Go CATS!!!!
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i'm a huge nova fan to start
but people are using the refs as an excuse bad calls as an excuse
it's human error, it happens all the time in sports....all we can do is suck it up and move on
i agree 100% the GT call was awful..and i didn't see the other call you are talking about
but we have to remember GT was shooting awfully that game...and the teams went on a scoreless streak for almost 10 minutes
i think nova is almost to the point where they are in
a win and ya they are in..but a loss...and i still believe they can make a case
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i'm a huge nova fan, obviously, and i think they have a shot if they play a competitive game tomorrow, even if they don't win... they've gotten screwed out of two games by the zebras, and that gets taken into account almost like an injury to a star would. i hope they get in, obviously, but a win tomorrow is to make sure, and i think they'll be motivated.
funny how no one cared duke was 7-10 in the ACC last year? they still got in easily because they are duke. but nova, 10-10 isn't good enough in the best conference in the country?
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Most of the experts on the tournament and the selections had Syracuse as a bubble team before this game and 'nova a notch below. So with this result i would think that their positions have flipped putting 'nova on the bubble and syracuse a notch below. A win vs. Georgetown would probably increase 'nova's RPI to a point where they would be in, two more wins would i think assure them a spot.
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Was really hoping for a Syracuse victory but either way.......I think especially due to their handling of Syracuse....even if they lose to G-Town but keep it close.....I'll say they get in....Cuse is goin to the NIT (2 years in a row!).....Now should they not show up and get blown out by G-Town...I don't think they're in......
Essentially....put on a good show against Georgetown and they're going to the dance, this is a good team and should they catch fire, they have the potential to at least be a sweet 16 team.
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