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Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 28, 2008

March 28, 2008 11:36 pm

Why doesn't Gary mention that almost every team has a higher tournament winning percentage in their home state. You know why that is? Teams normally play the first two rounds in their home state and later rounds elsewhere. UNC plays its first two games in the state of North Carolina almost every year. Those are games that they should win. Of course there is some level of home court advantage. Just not the level Gary suggests.

Roy denies the advantage not because he believes none exists, but because he does not want his team to get complacent in any way. His message is to his players that they need to win the game on the court.


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Reputation:90
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 7, 2006

March 29, 2008 12:53 am
Either way we can all agree that home court advantage is a big help.  The team thrives off the energy that the fans give them.  But hey that's the name of he game.  No need to b*tch about something that can't be changed (as far as who gets home court advantage).  It's going to be a great game tomorrow.  I can't wait!!  In fact  in my opinion this is THE game of the tourney.

Go Cards!!!

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Big12alltheway
Level:Amateur
Since:Jan 18, 2007
March 29, 2008 1:54 am
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Reputation:85
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 19, 2008

March 29, 2008 5:03 pm
Of course I want our boys to win tonight. But I think as long as we win, it's a win-win for fans because whether we play Kansas or Davidson, that national semi will be amazing.  I would love for the Heels to match up against Kansas and their fans that hate Roy for leaving, but I would also love to see Davidson make it to the Final Four.  Whatever happens, Go Heels!

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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 12, 2006

March 29, 2008 8:04 am

Why doesn't Gary mention that almost every team has a higher tournament winning percentage in their home state. You know why that is? Teams normally play the first two rounds in their home state and later rounds elsewhere. UNC plays its first two games in the state of North Carolina almost every year. Those are games that they should win. Of course there is some level of home court advantage.

You're exactly right!

Two things. One, If Gary would check North Carolina's and Duke's tourney record in the Meadowlands I believe he'd find it's very good there too because they've both played the early round games there.

Two, does anyone remember reading a Whisky fan's post two days ago about Davidson playing in the friendly confines of North Carolina and how it was going to be different in Detroit?

 

 


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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 9, 2007

March 29, 2008 9:37 am

The advantage is undeniable.  The simple fact of the matter is that once the first round is over no team should be in a bracket where they can continue to play in front of hometown fans with ease.  The location of games in the tourney is huge, homecourt advantage is huge.  I say we move the tournament to Canada where there is no chance of home court advantage.

Seriously the UNC fans cannot say that they think it is not an advantage.  UNC deserves no special treatment.  If any one deserved to play in their home state most of the way it was Memphis...they only lost one game....in their homestate of all places.

The advantage is undeniable...remember the '88 Fianl Four in Kansas City?  There was no way KU could have won it all that year playing anywhere else but KC.  That is a fact.

UNC WILL NOT WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.  Sorry to burst your bubble here fellas but they simple do not have the arsenal to get through the next two games.  U of L is tough and athletic and deep.  Even if UNC manages to get through the Cards there is a buzzsaw waiting for them in Kansas...should they get blessed by the almighty to win that I don't see them beating Texas or Memphis or UCLA.  It was a nice season for UNC, hell next to KU I like them most simply because of Roy Williams.  They just have a hard road to hoe...hell all the teams do now.


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Reputation:91
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 13, 2008

March 29, 2008 11:04 am

The advantage is undeniable...remember the '88 Fianl Four in Kansas City?  There was no way KU could have won it all that year playing anywhere else but KC.  That is a fact.

 

Wow!  Is that really a fact.  What you are saying is that you have indisputable evidence that shows without a doubt that KU would have lossed if they were not playing at home.  I would like to see this evidence.  I am giving you a homework assignment ft rommel.  You have from now until UNC runs Kansas over in the final 4 to produce this evidence.  That gives you one week to do whatever research is needed.  Get to work.


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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 9, 2007

March 29, 2008 11:28 am
How will UNC beat Kansas?  They won't even make it to the final four.   U of L will beat them by 9.

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Reputation:85
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 26, 2006

March 29, 2008 11:43 am

Odds makers usually give the home team (truly home game) a five point advantage over a visiting game. With that said, some teams defy odds makers and sometimes but rarely play better on the road. Despite that rarity, the statistical average is at about five points. If a home team wins by more than five points, then I would put the odds that the home team played at a higher level (did not play equally with a home court advantage) on that day.

For the game: I see UL of playing UNC tough and potentially beating UNC in a close game. I dont see UL blowing out UNC. Odds makers have UNC at between 5.5 and 6 points. I would expect a 2-3 point score differential. I see the score being 77-79 UNC, but wouldnt be suprised if UL wins in the final 30 seconds.


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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 12, 2006

March 29, 2008 3:23 pm

Odds makers usually give the home team (truly home game) a five point advantage over a visiting game.

That's true, but the advantage is not fear of the crowd on the part of the visiting team. A good ball player is concentrating in his game, not the crowd. The advantage is due to the tendency of the officials to give some close calls to the home team. 

While the home team may get fired up before the home crowd, some visiting teams get fired up by a &