How dumb are the Democrats?

UK Blue

explain these two vidoe threads i have put on here.....

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

Canyoubelivethis.wmv

MPO

I'd love to hear your imput on this as weel. as well as any other democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

immigration legislation was put forth by your party!!!!!!!!!

I hate to say it but coach provided a great example of why we can’t move forward in this country.  When you can't intelligently debate the issue you resort to ad hominem arguments. 

You missed the point about the war entirely.  We could debate the war but both democrats and republicans voted to go in based on the same faulty intelligence.  Hindsight is 20-20 so saying now we shouldn’t have gone in has no value or credibility.  You can say that Bush doctored intelligence or whatever but there have been no credible accusations and with a democratically controlled congress and a liberal leaning press you would have known if there were any proof of Bush officials manipulating intelligence reports. 

Besides, the war argument would come down to an exit strategy.  Should we abandon Iraq to fend for themselves or stick it out until they have stability.  For your information I served in the military for 20 years and retired from active duty.  I am deeply troubled and offended when some self-righteous SOB pretends to have served in the military, trashes the leadership, and advocates surrendering, allowing our men to have died and suffered in vain.  We must do what’s right for Iraq and America and help the Iraqi’s end the sectarian violence going on there.  They had relative stability (under a cruel dictator) before we went in; we should help them re-establish stability before we leave.

UK Blue again resorts to ad hominem arguments.  I haven’t found a liberal (democrat) yet willing to discuss issues and try to resolve them on an intelligent basis.  Just those wanting to scream that because I’m not a democrat I am “selfish” and “heartless”.    I believe that most liberals and socialists are big-hearted people wanting to take care of everyone especially those that can’t take care of themselves.  I applaud your unselfishness and your sentiment for mankind.  Rather than scream that republicans “don’t care” perhaps you could spend a few minutes trying to understand what we are saying.  It’s not that we don’t care; it’s that we don’t believe the liberal solutions are the way to achieve our common goals. 

I remember the cold war; we won.  The Soviet Union was a great experiment in socialism.  They could not compete with the free market system we enjoy here in the United States.  The standard of living for all suffered under socialism.  People in the U.S. that we considered poor were living above what would have been considered middle class in the Soviet Union.  When people are provided all their needs and wants without having to put forth an effort or produce anything, many will not put forth an effort or produce anything.  While fruit does grow on trees you need someone to plant those trees, care for those trees, harvest the fruit, and distribute them.  We live in a society where people are given many opportunities.  Those that are willing to work hard are rewarded for their work.  Those that don’t go to school, learn a needed skill, become a valuable commodity, and work hard aren’t rewarded as highly.  This encourages people to work hard and raises the standard of living for all of us. 

The democratic montra of take from the rich and give to the poor is old and tired.  I give plenty to charity; far more than the average American and we as American’s are the most generous nation on earth.  I resent the liberals telling me that the government should raise my taxes and forcibly take more of the money that I work for so that they can wastefully spend it on their pet projects.  The government steals my money and spends it on “art” displays where the “artist” puts crosses in animal urine.  They steal my money and spend it on “midnight basketball” so that kids will have a safe place to play in the middle of the night.  They steal my money and build bridges to nowhere in Alaska. 

There is a place for the government in providing for people that truly cannot provide for themselves.  However, we must keep in mind that the government has proven time and time again (both democrat and republican) that they are not the most efficient way to accomplish anything.  Take for example the Katrina victims.  There is plenty of blame here for both parties and federal, state, and local authorities to share.  I only bring this up to demonstrate the lack of efficiency in government.  The government paid hundreds of millions to put Katrina victims in hotel rooms where many spent over a year.  The cost of some rooms was well over $100 per night.  For $100 per night for 365 nights (what we paid to keep these families in hotel rooms) for a year, we could have bought them $360,000 homes.   How is that the best use of our money?  At the end of the year they still had no place to call home and we'd spent more than enough money to build them very nice homes almost anywhere in the country.  I’m pretty sure that civilian charities did a better job here.

So, this brings me back to health care.  Do any democrats really want to talk about health care and how “socialized medicine” is going to be good for us?  Where is the line between what will be covered and what is not?  What about an experimental treatment that cost $500,000 and has a 10% success rate?  Do we cover this for a 95 year old man?  Do we cover it for a 9 month old child?  If we spend the $500,000 for this procedure it reduces the money available for other things.  You can vacinate a lot of children for $500,000.  Do we cover the very expensive treatment for people infected with AIDS?  What if they were having unprotected sex or using dirty needles to become infected?  What if it's a child that got it from a blood transfusion?  Who makes the rules?  Who decides what is covered and what isn't?  Do you really want the government deciding for all of us?
 

I'll take a spelling course ,when you take an fiscal responsibility course, I still haven't had 1 republican answer my question on here. So  i'll ask it again, Who do propose pay off our bloating deficit ? You are too greedy to pay the required  taxes to pay our