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Since:Mar 5, 2008

April 9, 2008 2:07 pm

I honestly think the high school players shouldn't have to go to college for one year because its America and they should be able to do whatever they want even if its not the best thing for the individual.  Its a free country!

And what the heck is the "Academic Progress Rate" score?  And why would they lose a scholarship because of it?  Is it some kind of violation or something?


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Since:Sep 27, 2006

April 10, 2008 8:45 am

Academic Progress Rate is a measuring stick implemented by the NCAA to track academic performance for athletic programs.  Basically, they have established a scoring system and if you don't meet certain scoring requirements you get penalized (i.e. loss of scholarships).

As for saying that this a free country, you are correct.  But that doesn't give kids the right to play in the NBA straight out of high school.  All employers, including professional sports leagues, have the right to establish minimum standards for candidates to qualify for employment.  Just like a factory can require a high school diploma, an insurance company can require a college degree, etc.

Too many people have trouble understanding what their "rights" are in this country...


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Since:Feb 6, 2008

April 10, 2008 4:10 pm

Link please?  to justify what you're posting. 


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Since:Jan 27, 2007

April 12, 2008 8:58 pm

Why does he need a link? What he is saying is common sense.

Doesn't a doctor have to go to med school and pass an exam to practice? Ditto for a lawyer. That is because that is the standards the AMA and ABA have set? Are you some how suggesting that is wrong.

The NBA is a business just like medicine or practicing law or working as an electrician. The employer has a right to set certain standards for the individual to meet before they are hired. If you don't think so I wish you luck going to that doctor of yours who has no med liscence . Good luck on that wiring job your unliscensed electrician does on your house.

Having said that I freely admit that it is open to debate whether the NBA requiring 1 or 2 years in college is legitimate or not. ( But the courts have backed up the NBA and the NFL on that issue). But their is no debate that every employer has a right to set standards for employment.


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Since:Nov 29, 2007

April 13, 2008 4:53 pm

You make a good point, but what about the armed forces?

There are armed forces recruiting people in almost every high school. They want you to say you are going to join, even before you get out of high school. And just like basketball, there is a high school Army level, ROTC.

Why should these kids be denied by the NBA but accepted by the USMC? It's okay to learn how to kill and put your LIFE on the line, but it's not okay to let them learn the Triangle and the high pick n' roll?

And I know what you're thinking, its a bad investement, bad for business, blah blah blah. Just as many players out of college fail as do high school players. Sure Tim Duncan is great, went to college and is a great player. But for every Time Duncan, there's a Kevin Garnett. For every D'Wayne Wade theres a kobe bryant. For every.... wait, i cant think of any more. MOST of the top players in the L are straight out of high school. The top players out of college would get their asses tore up in a game made of players out of high school.

The one year ban on high school students who want to join the NBA is ignorant. If a grown man, and 18 is legally "grown", then he should be allowed to make money - as long as it's legal.


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Since:Nov 30, 2006

April 13, 2008 9:56 pm
The top players out of college would get their asses tore up in a game made of players out of high school.

The one year ban on high school students who want to join the NBA is ignorant.

No, that first statement is ignorant.  In 2006, a team made up of players straight out of high school would have included Oden, Conley, Durant, etc and even after watching how they played their one year in college, I would still put my money on the team of college players.  Any other year and the game wouldn't even draw enough interest to make it worth watching.

I don't have a problem with the NBA exercising it's right to determine who they hire.  99% of the time, the kids coming out of HS have no business in the NBA anyways.  They may have the talent, but they just don't have the physical developent to match up with the 22-30 year old athletes in the League.  The NBA isn't doing it for the kids' good though - or for the NCAA.  They want college to serve as the free developmental league they were used to for 50 years.  The NBA GMs like to get a kid who has spent time in a college weight room and conditioning program so they don't have to kill 2 years of multi-million dollar salary hoping he will work out.

If the side benefit of the NBA protecting itself from itself is that these kids have to spend a year or two in college, I think that's a win-win situation for everyone.  The only problem I have is the NCAA penalizing programs that recruit the best players and then lose them early.  I don't really see what the schools can do - it is almost impossible to make the kids finish their classes once they declare early, so they never end up in the "on track to graduation" column.  It is a pipe dream for the NCAA to expect otherwise.


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