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When Nicklaus ruled the Masters


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When Nicklaus ruled the Masters
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Since:Jun 6, 2007

April 11, 2008 2:36 pm

I never watched those stupid tapes or bought any golf training aides either.  I think they are a huge waste.

I've always had someone knowledgeable take a look at my swing and tell me what my flaws are.  It doesn't take a pro to see you may be a little flat or taking it off plane and have an"outside loop" in your swing.

Don't try to make any changes on the course though.  The range is for training.  The course is for using what you learned at the range.

I see so many people try to practice on the course it makes me laugh.  While you are playing, your shots are so few and far between, you can't build up any muscle memory.  That is all golf is, muscle memory.  While you're on the range, can you develop a "groove" and get rid of your bad habits and form better habits.  Who wants to miss an approach shot, to a short par four after a great drive, because they are going to change their thought process for that one shot, and try to make their swing more upright?  I want to make birdies when I get into those situations!   I don't want to chunk it because I tried a different swing plane.

Be aware though that too much time at the range can also form bad habits, if you don't know what to practice.  After a while on the range I can practically dance and hit a solid shot.  I call that just beating balls, not practicing.  I have to periodically stop stretch a little, change clubs and start over methodically.  Other times I try to "play" my favorite hole in my head.  I will hit a driver and then take a 3-4 minute break and then use the club I normally have for an approach on my "dream" hole.  This way I can get feedback as far as whether my practice will pay off or not on the course.  I also get out of that beating balls syndrome.

However you get help is up to you but check out th course that you frequent.  Most times, if you have a good pro, you can get some pointers without having to pay for lessons.  If not the pro, then ask someone at the range who seems like they have a fundamentally solid swing, to look at you.  You'd be surprised how many good golfers will give you help if you'd ask.


When Nicklaus ruled the Masters
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Since:Dec 13, 2006

April 12, 2008 2:16 pm

Just some thoughts on equipment. I could totally believe that you can hit a ball further with persimmon woods than the Calloway woods. Here is kinda the secret to length imo.

First you have to utilize all of the CORRECT muscles in your body at the right time. If you swing with all arms (im sure most amateurs have heard this before) the driver you use witll really not matter.

Second thing is having the correct clubs for you body/ swing. For instance if you 50 years old and using a stiff shaft or a metal shaft in your woods that is probably not helping you at all.

Lastly the ball is fairly important but not as much in my opinion. I hit the ball about 275 on average and with a rock DT titleist I only get about 5 more yards than the PRO V1 x I normally play. However even if the DT went 20 yards further I would not play it bc I have to have the soft ball coming in and around the greens.

Just some quick thoughts. If you want to hit the ball further and straighter than go to a golf pro and have him fit your swing with correct shafts and clubs. Might cost a little more but really to play better golf consistantly is worth it.


When Nicklaus ruled the Masters
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Since:Sep 21, 2006

April 13, 2008 5:57 pm

Good thread, even for those who don't follow golf very closely.

I have a vivid memory of watching the Masters in 1986 when Nicklaus was waiting to see if his lead would hold.  As Ballesteros was readying on 15, I muttered to myself, "Put it in the f***in' lake, Seve," which of course he did.