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Butch/Flowers/Stiemsma Post Badger Career?


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Butch/Flowers/Stiemsma Post Badger Career?
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Since:Mar 3, 2008

April 14, 2008 3:49 am
Stiemsma-No Basketball in his future..

Flowers- He'll play in Europe or NBDL

Butch-Europe or no basketball

Im not sure what does anyone think

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Since:Aug 10, 2006

April 14, 2008 10:22 am

Stiemsma - if he wants to play he'll play in Europe and probably tear it up. Stiemsma is better than Bo allowed him to be IMO

Flowers - DLeague or Europe

Butch - Europe


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April 14, 2008 12:11 pm

Was Paul Mokeski really that much better than Butch or Stiemsma?  Has the NBA changed where Mokeski would be relegated to Europe?  Or how about Shawn Bradley compared to those two? 

Seems to me that Butch and Stiemsma have the size to get a look at the NBA.  They both have decent range on their shots, they both grab rebounds effectively.  Stiemsma is a legit shot blocker and post defender.  Am I just delusional?

 


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April 14, 2008 12:34 pm
Was Paul Mokeski ...

Either you're showing your age, or I'm showing my youth, because I have no idea who that is.

I think that Stiemsma actually has a better shot at the NBA than Butch.  If the NBA were like the Badgers in that people actually played defense and tried to take charges then I think Butch could do it ... but it isn't.  That's why Stiemsma's defense is really important, because Butch could never dream of being the shot blocker Stiemsma is.  And while they both have decent range, is Butch going to be able to extend his out another few feet to continue hitting 3's?  If he can't, his 20' shots are worth the same amount of points as Stiemsma's 15' ones.  And while Stiemsma could probably hold his own in the NBA I think Butch would get eaten alive inside.

But all this is a moot (mute?) point because neither will make it there.  All three could play Dleague or in Europe.

And speaking of Dleague, did you see that Tucker was putting up 29 points in his last stint there?  That's not much better than his season average of 27.7, though.  He's also hitting 57.7% of his shots and 44.2% of his threes.  Phoenix called him back up and he's going to be on the roster for the playoffs.


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April 14, 2008 12:46 pm

Barry Alvarez sent a petition to the NCAA for Flowers to come back for his 5th year and play cornerback for the football team.  Flowers said he would consider it if he didn't get drafted.


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April 14, 2008 4:15 pm

Komacki - I agree with your assessment on Stiemsma being more likely to make the transition than Butch.  Stiemsma's 15 footer has to be honored more in my mind than Butch's 20 footer, plus Stiemsma's hook in the lane can be shot over a lot of NBA players IMO.  And Stiemsma's defense and shot blocking are better.

Mokeski was a 7 foot, slow, big guy who played marginal defense and could hit an outside shot with a decent percentage.  He was one of quite a few perimeter oriented big guys that Don Nelson brought to Milwaukee.  I think he played for 10 plus seasons.  Basically a bench guy/spot starter with 6 fouls to give and a 3rd or 4th option on offense when he was on the floor.

The NBA looks a tad quicker than those days, but still you can't coach size and both Butch and Stiemsma have size. 


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April 14, 2008 5:16 pm
Paul mokeski and Randy Bruer (Sp?) with teh Rainbow jumper................. Loved listening to Jim Irwin make those calls on teh old Bucks. Throw in Lohaus, Fred Roberts and Jack Sikma and that is classic Don Nelson Bucks basketball. That being said Mokeski was more agile than Butch and had better, not much, but better leaping ability and his shooting touch was more pure than Butch IMO. Breuer had great outside range, much better than Butch's so did Lohaus. That being said you might be right, Butch might have made the NBA back then but regardless he has no shot in this day and age. I don't know about Stiemsma, IMO Bo never developed Stimesma the way Stiemsma should have been played, on another team Stiemsma may have lead the nation in blocked shots and may have averaged a double double every night, we will never know. Of the three I think Stiemsma has the best shot of making it someday

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April 14, 2008 6:27 pm
Did Bo not develop Steimsma or did Steimsma not develop himself?  Let's not forget this kid was ineligible for grades so ambition and motivation are probably not his biggest assets.  He's probably lucky he played for Bo or perhaps he would have been ineligible for longer periods of time.  I live near the Randolph area and the talk in the area is Steimsma isn't very bright and isn't very motivated, and has quite an attitude.  The rumors are also that he and Ryan Tillma never got along even though they won 3 state titles together. 

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April 14, 2008 7:47 pm
Let's not forget this kid was ineligible for gradesThe whole depression things may have played a part in that.

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