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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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Since:Jan 21, 2007
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How can anyone say which quarterback is going to be great and which one will not? How many missed the boat on Brett Favre, David Garard, Tom Brady, etc And also, how many can't miss quarterbacks have failed? We're all singing the praises of Eli Manning but there are times last year where you couldn't tell which team he was throwing to. Saying that Ryan/Brohm are going to be stars while Flacco will not is just a guess because the way quarterbacks are rushed into duty and called on to perform at a high level is just crazy. How did all you draft experts miss on Kurt Warner, a 2 time MVP? Who's to say that J D Booty of USC or on a bigger scale Kevin O Connell of San Diego St might be sleepers that make it big in the NFL? Drafting a quarterback is like taking a spin at the roulette wheel, you never know when your number is going to come up. I think teams that pick a quarterback on the second day have just as good a chance of developing a good quarterback. I am a Bears fan and is they had picked any quarterback this year in the first 2 rounds I would have been disappointed. Anyone they pick on the second day is okay with me. How many superstar quarterback are there in the league? Look at Tony Romo, he wasn't drafted and he's had success but he still hasn't put the Cowboys in a Super Bowl yet.
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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it is true what you say, but the only thing to really go on is how they have played so far. its really the only gauge you have. that said, the draft is a gamble all around.
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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Since:May 9, 2007
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Maybe a little bit off-topic, but I have to agree with Prisco when he says that Flacco's decision not to compete for the starting position at Pitt is a huge red flag. You bow down against Tyler Palko, who was not even a great college QB, and willingly go to a place where you know you get to start. NFL is equally much about your mental skillset as it is about your physical ability, and I don't see Flacco making it.
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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If it is the not fair he doesn't like me best versus take the challenge, it is a red flag. But, it is certainly possible that there were favorites and non-favorites at Pitt that had nothing to do with on the field performance. What I find more interesting is that when he bounced, Delaware was the choice. It appears he played it safe, a red flag? Then again, his adapted plan and talent also appear to have worked to get him ahead of quarterbacks from the major programs.
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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When I first read the ESPN magazine with Flacco in it a while back when Delaware was making a run at the 1-AA title, I thought wait a second I know that name...wasn't he that backup that transferred a few years back?..I think Prisco and everyone here is right saying this is a flag. Look I went to Pitt and am a huge Pitt fan, I was actually attending while Flacco was there.
I never really sensed much buzz about him and thought the consensus feeling was Palko had the job. I like Palko I think he was a pretty good college QB, but he isn't anything special. Last year he went undrafted and signed a FA deal I think with the Saints to be the 3rd string QB....at that I think they released him and picked him up for practice squad or something later on.
I just don't see how someone who supposedly has all this talent gets beat out by an eventual NFL practice team QB. Not only that but he feels he has no chance to win the job back so runs off to a 1-AA team where he can walk right into a starting job. It says it right in this article Pitt wanted him to stay and compete but he didn't want any part of it.
If Kyle Boller or Troy Smith actually put up some competition maybe Flacco runs off to the CFL. How bout them Toronto Argonauts!!
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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I don't pretend to even have seen one game that Flacco played in, but I trust that Ozzie Newsome knows what he was doing. The Boller miss seems to be the doing of Brian Billick insisting on his guy, but Ozzie usually does not reach too much. This one looks like a reach, but I can't claim to know anything about QB evaluations. As far as the issue of leaving Pitt, if I were faced with Dave "destroyer of talent" Wannstadt, I might run away too.
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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Sorry Caelans, but here's the reality of football at the pro and college level - every coach wants consistency at the QB position, not controversy. If Palko had the hot hand, leadership of the team, time in the system, etc., the coach was not going to have an open competition. THAT's why Joe Flacco left. Not because he was a wuss and couldn't stand competing. He was doomed to be a back-up, and that's reality. Do you think anybody would have been talking about Joe Flacco if he had stayed at Pittsburgh as a back-up? The Tom Brady story only happens once in a blue moon folks.
To those who say the Ravens could have gotten him at #26, I'm not sure he would have fallen. Insiders were saying that the Texans got two trade-up offers to get Joe Flacco and others right behind them said the same thing. There were a lot of teams interested in him, and while they didn't let on to it leading up to the draft, he was #2 on most team's boards, right behind Matt Ryan. The fact that the other twto QBs didn't go until mid-second round is evidence of that. The comparison to Ben Roethlisberger is very appropriate they say, with a bigger arm. The thing they liked most was his accuracy. He puts the ball exactly where it needs to be for his receivers to make plays. Only 5 INTs this season. Compared with 19 for Ryan.
NFL Network was gushing over this pick this morning, and most of the ESPN guys liked it too, except for the placement at 18. The guys who actually watch film on these players (Prisco, you listening?) say he's ready in every aspect, except for experience on the big stage. His adaptability, intellect and feel for the game are off the charts they say. Time will always tell, hopefully they don't throw him into the fire too quickly.
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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How can you be a judge of quarterback talent?
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So you think that he is ready except for experience on the big stage? Well the problem is welcome to the NFL an even bigger stage than d-1 football.
So he has the measurables, read the article so does Kyle Boller and he sucks. Ohhh the experts are gushing!!! You know another QB all the experts gushed over years back? RYAN LEAF They said 20 years or whatever down the line that Ryan Leaf would have HOF after his name and Peyton Manning would be tinkering around. The truth is if the experts were always right the draft wouldn't mean anything. There wouldn't be the 3rd-7th round picks or even undrafted FA becoming all pros. If the experts were always right there would be no reason for the 2nd day of the draft. And honestly I think if they do throw Flacco in right away it will be a HUGE disaster because of the lack of experience. How many defensive players that Flacco faced over his last few years at DE went yesterday? Was he fitting passes in tight windows vs Mike Jenkins or Brandon Flowers? Was he being chased by guys like Vernon Gholston and Phillip Merling? No he was being facing guys who wouldn't make the 2-deep at the 1-A level. How bout the last 1-AA QB that came out (Tarvaris Jackson)?
Maybe just maybe if they Flacco sit for a few years get accustomed to the type of play at such a high level that he could come in and do well...Only problem is who will the Ravens start in the mean time? Kyle Boller or Troy Smith? Well at least the Steelers dont have to worry about Balti in the AFC North for a few year.
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