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I get your point... we did give up a alot... but think about this and consider if Jared Allen cost to much. The Jaguars gave up their first round pick, two thirds, and a FOURTH to move from 28th (I think... I am not sure) to move up to the Ravens spot at 8...
so MajorPackerFan... answer me this honestly
would you rather give up the 17th and two 3rds plus swapping 6th round picks for Jared Allen... or would you rather give up the 28th, two 3rds, and a 4th for Derrick Harvey?
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Well, if it's just A or B. I'll take Jared Allen without any debate. But if "none of the above" was an option, my mind would tell me to take that.
The Patriots traded a 4th round pick to acquire Randy Moss. Now, which of the three trades mentioned would you take?
My point is, there are good trades and there are bad trades. But both sides of the trade think they are winning or the trade would never go down.
Randy Moss came with a lot of baggage, yet NE won that trade.
Jared Allen is coming with a lot of baggage. Could the Vikings win big on this trade? Possibly. Will they? Way too soon to tell. But there are a ton of opinions out there, and I'd like to hear them.
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The major reason that Randy Moss was traded for a 4th rounder was because a lot of people that he was done for due to lack of production while with the Raiders. He did have baggage issues, but that rarely scares off teams like the Patriots, it was mostly because the coaches of the Raiders as well as a lot of sports analysts considered Moss to be on the tail end of his career, guess they were wrong huh.
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It is all speculation, that would be like saying; if a plant was blue do you think it would still be able to produce photosynthesis. I know you were just saying that the guys they got might be good for them and you were asking if the guys we could have drafted there may have been better than Jared Allen. That is why I said something along those lines in my post, saying that based upon how the draft went down, the only player that would have been worth taking at 17 for our number one need was Derrick Harvey and he was gone well before then. I believe the guys that the Chiefs got with the picks we gave them will turn out to be good but there is no way to know how the guys we would have drafted at those spots would have turned out because after Harvey was gone nobody knows where the Vikings would have gone in the first let alone the two thirds.
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It is all speculation, that would be like saying; if a plant was blue do you think it would still be able to produce photosynthesis.
Well, yea...that's precisley why I asked it that way. If I had asked "do all green plants photosynthesize?", how much debate would that stir up? Ummmm...none.
Obviously most Vikings fans are excited about this trade, and they shoud be. But what if Jared gets that DUI and is gone for a year? Will he come back as the same player?
What if Larry Johnson gets hurt and Jamaal Charles runs for 1000 yds and 8TDs in the last half of the season. And Morgan proves himself by picking off 5 passes and makes the all rookie team?
What if Jared registers 23 sacks and forces 6 fumbles?
I'm just curious what Vikings fans think it will take to call this trade a success, and what it will take for you to call it a flop. In all seriousness, you have to admit it can easily go either way, or fall somewhere in between.
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This trade would be a success for the Vikings if it brings our pass defense to a respectable level. If we are able to achieve that, than with the combination of the running game and a solid all around defense, perhaps even dominant arguably it would be successful. I don't think Jamaal Charles will produce that much even if he is the feature back, still too many holes on that line. As far as this coming season goes, the Vikings most likely wil look to have gotten the better end of the deal, but once the Chiefs have more time to rebuild, it should end up being a pretty fair trade. By the way, how can anyone not be excited about photosynthesis, j/k.
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I was listening ( and yes , calling ) Sirius NFL , and unanimously , they ( on different shows , different hosts ) thought that the Jared Allen deal was a winner for both teams . Derek Harvey ( as well as Long and Gohlston ) was the only possible player , at DE , that the Vikings could have moved up for , and we know that to do so would have cost the Vikings virtually all their picks . . . So was trading a 1st and two 3rds too much ? Not in my book . And picking Tyrell Johnson will only strengthen the Vikings pass defense . All things considered , the Vikings had a very good draft . They weren't able to address the need at OT , but were able to pick up a capable qb
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"I'm just curious what Vikings fans think it will take to call this trade a success."
I think it's already a success. Both the Bears and the Lions picked up Tackles in the first round. While the Bears could have used a Quarterback, and the Lions could have used a running back. both Mendenhall and JOnes were on board when the two picked. Kampman and Allen may have swayed their decision.
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