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Why is it that guys who have shown that they can play ball at a major league level such as Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton continue to get dumped on while guys who supposidly have the "talent" like Rich Hill and Felix Pie who are handed jobs in spring training. I know that Pie lost his job in the first week but he was still the man going into the year.
Today Sean Marshall gets sent down for Scott Eyre who had a terrible year last year and I don't believe he will be any better than Marshall. If anything Fox should have been sent down. Does anyone else think this is unfair?
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Yes I agree. I didn't know that Marshall was sent to the minors, and I certainly don't understand the move considering how badly Lieber pitched on Wednesday. Marshall was under 4.00 ERA in 20 starts last season and was pitching well in bullpen work this year. I really thought that he would be given the fifth starter spot and they would move Lieber back to long relief in the bullpen. Then you send Fox down and bring Eyre up to be your left handed specialst in the bullpen. Maybe they wanted to stretch out Marshall's arm by getting him some starts in the minors before throwing him in the rotation at this level. I like Marshall though; he deserves another shot as a starter.
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Sean Marshall was sent down so that he could be stretched out to become a starter again. Just like Hart, the Cubs are looking at these guys as insurance for the shaky starters, Marquis and Lieber. One thing you cannot do in live games in the majors is take a guy who has been going an inning or less at a time and drop them into the rotation. Eyre on the other hand, has no options and would have to clear waivers to be sent down. It appears unfair, but it is exactly what the Cubs should do.
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Great post jazzman, being sent down is not always about preformance. I am a big Matt Murton guy but he can't play CF and that's why he's not with the big club. Because they have no clear cut CF and need to have Felix Rie and Reed Johnson avaiable there's just no room on a 25 man roster.
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Felix Pie........typing is not my forte.
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Along with stretching him out I think it is very important to him to have good consecutive starts while down in the minors. Both he and Rich Hill are head cases and could really benefit from getting their confidence back.
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It appears unfair, but it is exactly what the Cubs should do. Jazzman - Great post with excellent understanding!!! I have nothing to add!!
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I've been impressed with Chad Fox thus far. He appears to have picked up right where he left off three years ago, which is amazing given the surgeries and the amount of time he's spent away from the game. I almost feel more confident sending him in there over Michael Wuertz or even Bob Howry at this point.
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Fox is a better option than Wuertz so far but I'm always afraid every pitch will be his last one. I'm cool with Marshall going down to Iowa if he is indeed going to stretch out to be a starter again. Works for me.
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One thing you cannot do in live games in the majors is take a guy who has been going an inning or less at a time and drop them into the rotationLieber?
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Poor example Cubs Badgers. Jon Lieber was pitching long relief and at times going 3 to 4 innings a clip. I am not saying he did not hve some short outings, but in 10 games, he has pitched 21 innings. In 13 games, Sean Marshall had pitched 8 and 2/3 iniings. See the difference?
In that first start against the Reds, the Cubs would have been happy to get 4 or 5 innings and stretch Lieber out from there, depending on his efficiency. At his point in his career, he is only effective to about 75 to 90 pitches anyway. Sean Marshall even admits that he understands and needs to regain the feel for all his pitches and the approach of trying to go 7 or 8 innings as opposed to getting 1 or 2 hitters out.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/couriernews/sports/942454,3_2_EL10_B4CUBS_S1.article
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Great post on your part Jazzman, nothing more to add, except go Cubs! I hope that Sean Marshall gets a shot at the Rotation to replace, Rich Hill, Hill is good but doesn't have what it takes to become a starter. Hopefully Sean is the lefty that the Cubs have been waiting for in Hill.
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Since:Jan 15, 2008
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If the reason for Marshall getting sent down is so he can get acclimated as a starter than I am all for it. But how about Ronny Cedeno? This guy absolutely has to be in the lineup everyday at least while he is batting in the upper .300's. Even if it means sitting Derosa once and a while who by the way has played poorly at second base this season.
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