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Dumping Krivsky just latest proof Reds don't have a clue

 

It was only three springs ago in Sarasota, Fla., that I was sitting in Cincinnati owner Bob Castellini's office, discussing his big plans for the Reds and listening to him rave about his just-hired general manager, Wayne Krivsky.

Castellini spoke of the importance of patience in rebuilding the Reds. He pointed to the Minnesota Twins -- where he found Krivsky -- as a model organization.

Wayne Krivsky didn't have a prayer of finishing the job he started in Cincinnati. (AP)  
Wayne Krivsky didn't have a prayer of finishing the job he started in Cincinnati. (AP)  
One of the keys to the Twins' success, he told me, is their continuity. Smart people were running the baseball operations, and they were allowed to keep doing their jobs even in the lean years. The result was a strong foundation that, more often than not, has thrived.

That Castellini fired Krivsky on a bloody Wednesday in Cincinnati speaks to a couple of things:

It's the latest telling moment as to why the Reds remain the game's equivalent of a lost ball in tall weeds.

And it pulls back the curtain to reveal a glimpse of the way things continue to work far too often in this game -- that it's all about who you know.

Castellini was a minority owner of the St. Louis Cardinals for years. And last summer, as Cards general manager Walt Jocketty was becoming more and more disenchanted with the way things were going there, strong rumors sprung up that Jocketty and manager Tony La Russa would replace Krivsky and whoever the Reds' manager du jour was at the time. (Jerry Narron? Pete Mackanin? Tough to keep up.)

When the Cardinals fired Jocketty after the season, sure enough, Castellini couldn't contain his lust, quickly striking to add his friend as an adviser.

That's all well and good -- under certain circumstances. Jocketty had a terrific run with the Cardinals, and as far as a down-and-out organization like the Reds goes, the more bright minds, the better.

Except Jocketty's presence brought a whole lot of unwelcome questions for Krivsky. And the fact neither Castellini nor Jocketty ever really said Jocketty's days as a GM were finished wound up putting Krivsky in an untenable situation.

That Jocketty was on deck to take over for Krivsky if the Reds faltered was the game's worst-kept secret. This was the final season of Krivsky's contract, the Reds brought high-profile manager Dusty Baker in over the winter (another sign of Krivsky's eroding power) and most folks figured if Cincinnati didn't contend, Jocketty would be running things in 2009.

But to blow out Krivsky just three weeks into '08 with the Reds, at 9-12, only 21 games into their season?

It's a completely knee-jerk move by an owner whose credibility just took a colossal hit.

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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 27, 2006

April 24, 2008 2:55 pm
Whom ever hired Dusty Baker is the guy that needs to be fired.  As a Giants fan, I know all to well how that will cost the Reds in the win column.
Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 11, 2008

April 24, 2008 1:49 am
Allow me a quick moment to make my point.



SEVEN LOSING SEASONS IN A ROW!!

Geez, get on a team for firing a manager when he's winning, get on a team whose owner steps on the managers toes all the time and cant keep his (soon to be closed forever) mouth shut. Get on to teams for a number of things.  After your team has had seven consecutive losing y
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Since:Nov 9, 2006

April 24, 2008 2:31 am
The stability has allowed them to keep some great young talent. Krivsky has had the foresight to build this team from the farm system - and not pawn it off for the instant gratification for has been free agents (like my Dodgers have done with Juan Pierre and ...(more)
Reputation:98
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Since:Apr 24, 2007

April 23, 2008 4:39 pm
The Pirates stuck with GMs Cam Bonifay and Dave Littlefield for approximately 5 years each, and the team is just as bad now, if not worse.  Continuity only works if the people at the top know what they're doing.  Good article, though.
Reputation:56
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Since:Jan 3, 2008

April 24, 2008 12:52 pm

All these threads can we consolidate all the thoughts? I started this in the hopes that any future comments could be found in one place, you know continuity. Anyone from Cincinnati knows continuity is a good idea but it hasn't worked in practice. Lets start from 1990 because that's more modern day. Reds won the world series with ...(more)

Reputation:91
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 29, 2007

April 23, 2008 11:37 pm

That sucks..You know what 9-12 is? It's like LOSINNN mann. Like if won 1 MORE game, still be LOSINN mann.. Got to win a whole TWO games to be winnin.

 

Reputation:96
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Since:May 23, 2007

April 23, 2008 9:32 pm
Just hold up your hands like a scale and say Krivsky Jocketty... WS ring.. How man playoff appearances?? Don't look for Dunn or Griff to be back... He will bring in veteran OF get good pitching and the Reds will be back. The Reds couldn't risk losing him to somebody else.
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Since:Nov 23, 2007

April 24, 2008 12:55 pm
Has always produced good management